Joan: Well in the desert that was my childhood, I was grateful for any kind of genuine affection to feel cherished. Bette: Who was the lucky cub scout? Joan: My mother's second husband, Henry Cassen. He was a lovely man. Meant the world to me. Well, we called him Daddy Cassen, but he wasn't really my daddy. We weren't blood relations, so it wasn't incest, but he was kind and gentle, and he loved me. I led him into it. Bette: You were just a child. Your mother should have kicked him out!