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Show has abandoned any sense of coherence or realism for the sake of inflated crackships and love triangles. 

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Veetayt
^^ Sadly that, and they're not even trying to redeem that concept.
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the show is bassically

"oh my god! Someone died!....hey let's talk about my love problems"

 

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Veetayt
Seriously I'm thinking is there apparent lack of creativity in how storylines are run in this show or it's just that the writers don't have veto power. They just write what Plec wants which turns out not to be much.
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That is trueand quite obvious actually. I recognize quite a few names of writers who wrote some of my favorite episodes of other shows,  who have written some of shittiest tvd episodes

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Veetayt
Esp the writers who wrote S3 episodes Ghostworld and 1912 wow, that was bad in a major way. I can't even......
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I might be in the minority but I actually really liked Ghost World.

 

 

It was a breath of fresh air from all the original crap, it had a decent stand-alone story and actual awesome build up(that was ruined by teh end of episode when it all turned into just another Originals plot device),

IF S3 was all about those dead people trying to GET BACK IN into the town, with everyone having to litterally face their fallen loved ones, I would have enjoyed the season far more. Hell it could have been a perfect way to make death permanent - driving it home that those who cheat death, condemn themselves to suffering instead of just non-existence. 

 

I would take 20 repeats of Ghost World over boring horribly mind-numbingly painful bad writing of Ordinary People, AS I lay Dying, The Departed or the abyssmal first five episodes of S3. 

 

 

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In Ghost world they tried to bring back that S1 spark by bringing all those characters that made S1 cool which was not bad. But now, I feel for these characters to actually be flesh and start wanting to kill people or do stuff was a bit too much. Ghosts are just supposed to remain ghosts and it's really supposed to hurt cos you can't touch them or feel them. That is how the permanance of death should be potrayed. But to have Jeremy fall in love with a ghost. Vicky try to kill Elena and Stefan, the tomb vampire trying to revenge was a bit ott. And worse to have Esther being the mastermind behind that was absurd.
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 In Ghost world they tried to bring back that S1 spark by bringing all those characters that made S1 cool which was not bad. 

Which meant nothing to me.

 

 

I DESPISED Vickie in S1. And I was bored to point of sleep by Anna in S1. And yet that episode I enjoyed both of them immensely because suddenly they were more than just what they were in S1. They had purpose. Separate independent purpose from all the original crap, love triangle crap and all that shit. Within five minutes of episode they managed to make both Anna and Vickie, both characters I hated, more interesting than anyone who was alive. Of course they ruined it all by the end of ep, but oh well.

I feel for these characters to actually be flesh and start wanting to kill people or do stuff was a bit too muchGhosts are just supposed to remain ghosts and it's really supposed to hurt cos you can't touch them or feel them.

I loved that. Ghosts by the very idea SHOULD NOT EVEN BE THERE, because death should be the idea be final. 

 

So actually showing how "twisted" different and otherworldly those apparitions bearing familiar faces are, show was for a second, actually driving it home on how those people ARE REALLY dead. To the point that even if they defied death, they became far too different by pure need of survival.

The very act of defying death and desperation of wanting to defy it to live, changed them. That was fucking brilliant idea and an arc where characters actually have to find a way to make death completely final(as in, no more ghosts) would have been perfect - can you imagine everyone having to face their deceased loved ones, the twisted version of them? 

Elena having a talk with Uncle John, Jenna,her parents and everyone who died for her? Having to actually FACE the consequences of her actions, the remnants of the people her choices ended?

Alaric meeting Isobel?

Steffie actually having to be the one to END Lexie?

And finally, the only way from keeping real world from being overrun by those apparitions becoming physical, being the way to actually make sure no ghost ever exists? Hell, in result of that maybe making all those nifty life-rings powerless? Having to give up a hope of seeing the faces of your loved ones, to give up a chance to have a ring that makes you defy life? To actually accept and make sure that everyone who will die will be dead permanently in order to save those who are still alive? To actually be the ones who have to END their own loved ones forever?

It was a gold mine of possibilities with possible consequences down the road(like someone regretting that decision when someone dies after all that shit and they are incapable of actually reviving them because they made sure of that).

That episode tackled something deeper, something that was not boring love triangles and boring prettyboyband Originals. It had a possibility to give meaning to everything that ever happened in the show, to give a FRESH season that does not deal with random bad-guy-of-the-year trolling around, falling in love and settling in mystic falls. 

. But to have Jeremy fall in love with a ghost.

  execution was shitty as hell but IDEA of those ghosts, wishing to return to life and EXPLOITING the feelings of those who are still alive to do it would have been perfect. 

Vicky try to kill Elena and Stefan, the tomb vampire trying to revenge was a bit ott

I loved that. because it played into whole "unfinished business and consequences" kind of thing, because the show for SPLIT SECOND had a way to have all those people REACT to what the main cast did. 

And worse to have Esther being the mastermind behind that was absurd.

Hence why I count ghost World as a missed opportunity. Had that whole plto had nothing to do with Esther(who is the most fucking horrible and abominable and shitty addition to this show) or Originals(who only take screentime by standing around) and had those ideas LASTED for longer, Season three COULD HAVE BEEN the "character developing slower season that goes deeper into each character" (AS IN WHAT WAS PROMISED BEFORE S3 STARTED)

Ghost World remains as pretty much the only episode in S3 that I truly liked. 

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You really put up some fine points that I had overlooked about that episode. It would have been more gripping had they gone further with it. Bringing in Isabel et al would have been a good idea too no doubt.
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