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Somepplintheforumsuck

wow all of you are so awesome! :)) i wish we could all meet up haha and just talk about VD and everything! -sigh- and i agree at  many things i've read including the rushed delena relationship!

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Cbsn

That quote shows Damon doesnt love Katherine anymore... he's head over heels for elena now

*sighs* I'm a Delena fan, but you are just not getting it. Number one, some non-delena shippers are clueless too. I can say this through interviews with Nina and Ian. Isobel was throwing out her own wrench, but how can this cold-harded bitch know anything about love? How can it truly be defined by a woman who left her husband for some vamp thrills and narcissistic reasons?

Two, I had a huge debate with my friend (who is a bonafide psychologist now) and a few other psych majors. What is the revelation of love? Supposedly, people make the assumption that if you say you love someone, it must be true.

But that, within itself, is a bald-faced lie. A person can be in love with a self-imposed delusion and the only thing that can wake the person up from this misconception is for the object (the one he or she loves) in question to do something that completely alters the personified version he or she had created in their mind.

So breaking it down in layman's terms: Damon was in love with a personified version of Katherine. He thought he had a woman who even in her mischievous, charming ways would reciprocate the need to be near him, and she wouldn't do something as nefarious as lie and leave him.

Just look at his reaction when he discovered she wasn't in the tomb. He was beyond shocked and hurt. This is a pivotal moment where the lenses of his little quirky idea of who Katherine was, had been taking off and he realized he didn't really know the b****.

Three, if this was the general thought in the writers head, it is most certainly accurate.

Four, Nina already expressed (in a recent interview) that the "only" relationship Damon/Elena have right now is friendship. Stefan is being a very cute, jealous boyfriend.

Fifth, I will hit a key point Ian said in an interview I saw yesterday. Damon is allowed to be different. One of the things he said about Damon is this "you have to understand when someone does things that are violent and brutal, you have to understand they are coming from some place."

^^As a psych major, I agree with this. And whatever happens in the finale, Elena will start to understand why Damon does certain things in season 2. (interview by Nina) So Delena isn't a far stretch.

Sixth, he pointed out (I'm paraphrasing)"Damon is extremely lonely. Imagine having love and not having love and even to understand the world at thirty, imagine being 175 years old. How cynical you would be. All those elements if you were to quadruple them, you would find yourself in a unique situation, you would be watching all the people you have cared about, die and you still there."

What would it be like to watch people one by one die that you cared about? For Damon, as he pointed in the last eppy, there is a button for vamps. A human button.

And I like what a person said on another site. Damon doesn't know how to feel really. His main experience had been his misconception of Katherine. Shit, that would be hard for anyone who just saw the world through cynical glasses for 175 years. Now he cares about Elena, which isn't a far stretch if you go back to watch season 1 (I have all the eppys on my computer).

I think Damon is trying to figure out how to deal with these new emotions. My god, he actually has a friend! This is new and strange for him. He will be erratic and odd, because this is territory he didn't allow himself to go into probably for a long time.

 But Nina did say they are just friends right now...

Now if someone wants to dispute what Ian and Nina said out of their own mouths, fine, but I think they know more than the fans about what the characters are feeling.

 

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Cbsn

^^By the way, I don't think my comment is superior to anyone else's, but I do like to do my homework before I throw things out there. Some people will always criticize delena, no matter how the writers build them up, because they just hate that ship.

It's your prerogative. Whateva...

But it will still happen.

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Somepplintheforumsuck

wow im amazed..that's an A+ hw! like totally! and i agree with most of the things you said!

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sylvia75
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Hi everybody!

Mistress A, a pleasure reading you. I agree with you word by word.

I love delena and I always will, I respect all the people that ships different couples and defend them, so I expect the same.

For me the writers have done an incredible job with Elena and Demon and I hope they will keep doing it in the future.

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im not seeing how delena is bein rushed at all i think they had and still do have great build up all there doing right now is establishing feelings its not like anythings going to happen anytime soon

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Cbsn

Okay I just felt the need to defend myself with this. First I'm not a hardcore Stelena fan, out of the show I only ship Bamon. My love for Bamon makes me lean more towards Stelena but I dont hate Delena. And the thing with Stefan drinking his father's blood happened more than a hundred years (cant remember the exact amount) while the things Damon did happened quite recently so you can't really compare the those.

Delena will happen and I'll enjoy it when they do but it will be a while before Elena is ready to "be" with Damon.

First, Stefan trying to take a bite out of the girl wasn't a hundred years ago. Go back and watch Miss Mystic Falls.

Second, I can compare them when I'm talking about things from a psychological view point. Perfection without an inkling of darkness, even in a character, is a myth.

Third, please read the whole comment before you jump into a convo and prove you didn't get what I said at all. Do you remember what Damon said to Alaric in the last eppy? Yes, not even Stefan is completely good. They all battle with it internally.

And the fact that your only argument is I can't compare Stefan's crimes to Damon's means you truly missed the whole point.

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Cbsn

Thank you VD\m/ and sylvia75. Fans on opposite sides of the fence can argue with me, but they can't say anything about what the creators, Nina, and Ian say.

Let me squash the same lame ass argument people use to justify why Damon just sees Katherine in Elena.

Bear in Sacramento, Calif.: Could you please give us some scoop on Damon and Elena? Are they really going to become a real thing? Will they really get closer?Yes, they will get closer! And yes, he will start seeing her as more than just a Katherine knockoff. You Stefan-Elena fans will not be pleased, and you Damon-Elena fans will have much to squee about in coming episodes, from what I hear! Damon will help Elena with her new mother situation (along with Stefan), and that will draw them together a little more.

 This is straight from Kristin at e online. She is a reliable source. Nuff said...http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b177007_spoiler_chat_sneak_bloody-good_peek.html

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Boxing Kangar00
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@ Mistress A

I did read your whole argument. It's just you seem to believe that I hardcore ship Stelena and am anti Delena. The only thing I said was Delena won't be happening any time soon. I never said they weren't a possibilty. And you seem to be arguing the point that Delena happening won't be OOT and I don't have anything to say against that so why bother presenting an argument?

Let me squash the same lame ass argument people use to justify why Damon just sees Katherine in Elena.

I've never used that excuse btw (just clearing my name in case you were referring to me) :)

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Cbsn

Let me squash the same lame ass argument people use to justify why Damon just sees Katherine in Elena.

I've never used that excuse btw (just clearing my name in case you were referring to me) :)

No problem. I know you didn't say that. I was directing that comment to other people on this site.

It's just you seem to believe that I hardcore ship Stelena and am anti Delena. The only thing I said was Delena won't be happening any time soon. I never said they weren't a possibilty. And you seem to be arguing the point that Delena happening won't be OOT and I don't have anything to say against that so why bother presenting an argument?

The whole comment I made wasn't directed at you specifically. Did I say @ Boxing Kangar00? But some fans do like to label the delena moments OOC, because they hate them. It isn't OOC if a person understands the difference between character evolution and the OOC element itself. And yet, there is an abundant amount of proof that the delena friendship isn't in the out of character category. It didn't come from nowhere. I know delena will be explored more in season 2, but the truth is I want the writers to stretch it out for a while before Elena and Damon actually get together. I think what the writers have done so far has been realistic, considering Elena only sees Damon as a friend.

They are only friends, so I think some fans need to chill(not referring to you). And if Damon provokes Stefan into the role of a jealous boyfriend, I'm happy. I love Stefan in that position. It makes for good drama.

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