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What Bo has on is so out of character though lol. 

exactly why i think its a halucination. it seems more like something that teenager-Bo from her past would wear. 

 

 

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^Its def a halucination. The promo clearly shpws her knocked out on Trick's couch and receiving counselling in the bar.

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So a whole episode as a look into the cray cray mind of Bo? Seems fine by me :P

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LOL. Can you imagine if TVD did an episode like this for Elena....

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I would want to be that wall

 

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It would be just blank white room with steffie's portraits on the wall XD

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Going back to Bo's mind.

Yeah, especially after that previous episode's monologue, its quite clear that Kenzi in Bo's mind represents the morality of the actions she takes - reflection of her humanity.(which will be very interesting if something happens to Kenzi) 

The hometown is obviously the place because its where Bo's road started and the place that shaped her life. So yeah, that whole place is her mind. 

 

 

So what does the demon-thing represent? Her powers? Her fae-nature? Her own darkness?

 

The way I see it - she can't past the archway and she can't "evolve" because she does not accept her nature. I am guessing this episode will highlight that - that in order for her to remain herself, she has to lose a lot of what makes her human. 

 

 

 

 

 

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The way I see it - she can't past the archway and she can't "evolve" because she does not accept her nature. I am guessing this episode will highlight that - that in order for her to remain herself, she has to lose a lot of what makes her human. Exactly what i've been saying. The show needs to take the next step and force her to realize that although she's been raised by them SHE IS NOT HUMAN! Therefore, killing human and munipulating them for her survival is NOT a bad thing. And as much as i love the Light Fae i think the dark will teach her that lesson a lot better......A.K.A Tamsin. And i hope that they'll soon reach the stage where she starts to doubt her relationship with Laruen because of this new perspective and the whole age thing and for Lauren's own safely as well. It would be nice to see Trick barring Lauren and Bo from seeing each other until Bo sorts out her inner demons. Pun intended. 

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Therefore, killing human and munipulating them for her survival is NOT a bad thing.

Oh it IS fully bad thing, from our perspective. 

But its something in her genes. Her very survival instinct requires deaths of humans(hence her trail of bodies through her life). Being a predator is in her nature and the Dawning is all about her nature(hence her "nature" overtaking her in those killings this season). 

The very idea of what constitutes as her morality goes against her nature. Its a loss-loss situation for her- she either looses one aspect of being human or the other.

However just like with Buffy there are things that her to her humanity - Kenzi for example, her love for Lauren, Tamsin believing in her, etc. Which makes me believe that something very bad will happen to Kenzi.

 

 

 

On what I have noticed so far is that the OLDEST fae we have met(Trick, Norn, etc) so far have been the least human and IMO, that's the reason they have existed for so long - the longer they exist, the less human they are, because humans are not meant to live long. 

The thing with Bo, though is that she is not "JUST" succubus. She has at least three fae species in her(hence why her blood holds the power), her mother was a sort-of hybrid too already and she went cray cray, becoming something very inhuman and twisted in her behavior(of course she had very good reasons too, including rape and torture).

And Bo is even further, with a third unknown factor in her DNA - her father, who, from what we have learned so far, must have been quite a monster. Thus we have no idea on what the fuck could happen to her after Dawning - her mother most likely got  the whole improved blood control thing spot on from it too(and most likely going through that proccess added to her cray-ness), but Bo, unlike Ayfe, has more than two different species in her family tree. What is it in her what she got from her father? 

 

 

 

Actually I have been thinking - succubi seem to be VERY rare species - why is that? Do they all come from the same bloodline? We have seen other shifters, we have seen other sirens(a whole clan of them), but so far, apart from Lachlan's species, succubi are the lears populated subspecies of the fae, with possibly ONLY two members in it.  Why is that?

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Being a predator is in her nature and the Dawning is all about her nature(hence her "nature" overtaking her in those killings this season). 

The very idea of what constitutes as her morality goes against her nature. Its a loss-loss situation for her- she either looses one aspect of being human or the other.

Which brings me back to my nature vs nature argument. What exactly constitues the choice between turning dark or staying light. It would be too easy if it was just a simple choice based on nurture. We've never seen this happen to anyone else so we can only speculate but i have a deep feeling that this so called darkness thats in Bo is unique to only her or if its not unique to only her then the extremely strong potency is hers and hers alone. Mainly because of her dad's DNA. Did you see Trick freaking out in the last episode? Asking Lauren to triple check the results. He's obviously never seen anything like Bo's potential for Darkness and the speed that its happening. 

Which makes me believe that something very bad will happen to Kenzi.

YES!!! As much as it will kill me the signs are obvious. I think her greatest weakness in Kenz, oh she loves Lauren but as she said in the previous episode Kenz is her heart. If she looses any of those two, especially if its because of the rising darkness in her, then she would drive straight off that sane ledge called Light Fae territory.

Actually I have been thinking - succubi seem to be VERY rare species

I'm gonna have to disagree there. Remember Aife told Bo in the bar when they just met that Succubi were big in Berlin and that they are out there they just tend to stick to the big party cities where they can feed off the party sex vibe. We just haven't seen any others in our small Fae community.

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I'm gonna have to disagree there. Remember Aife told Bo in the bar when they just met that Succubi were big in Berlin and that they are out there they just tend to stick to the big party cities where they can feed off the party sex vibe. We just haven't seen any others in our small Fae community.

And yet 99% of what Ayfe told as "Saskia" was pretty much Ayfe being full of shit, remember?

And Ayfe is:

cray as fuck cray as fuck liar cray as fuck evil cray as fuck psycho did I mention cray as fuck?

 

I would not trust ANYTHING she said and so far she is the only other succubus we have met. 

The only other succubus we have met ended up being DIRECTLY related to Bo.

So far we have not enough data to decide in either way, but so far everyone has treated Bo as rarity(remember the corpse collector?).

Its well known enough for EVERYONE know what it is, yet we never see anyone else 

 

 

 

 

 

  It would be too easy if it was just a simple choice based on nurture. 

Oh I think that's exactly what it is. Its not some jedi/sith thing where it all depends on your inner turmoil and stuff. Its like declaring your nationality. Everything starts from there. 

The sides were something The Blood King caused, because of something he did, I guess.

i have a deep feeling that this so called darkness thats in Bo is unique to only her or if its not unique to only her then the extremely strong potency is hers and hers alone. Mainly because of her dad's DNA.Agreed on it being unique to bo, disagreed on it being 100% in DNA.

Yes it is unique to Bo. Its not because of her powers or heritage or up-bringing. She can control people via blood because of heritage. She can suck people to death via sexual interaction due to heritage. She has some traits of personality that come from her heritage (namely both Ayfe and Bo are incredibly independent rebels bent on anarchy and cray-ness, for example), but who she is, her own nature is because of  choices she made, because of psychology of her mind, nature of her desires and restraints. 

Her heritage helps it seep through, but who she is, is  not something she inherited. 

Its something she chose to be, which is the theme of the show.

Its not Dark or Light thing. Its Bo thing.

Which is why I believe that Bo will eventually end up unifying both sides into one, maybe in different way than Ayfe tired, but she will.

Did you see Trick freaking out in the last episode? Asking Lauren to triple check the results. He's obviously never seen anything like Bo's potential for Darkness and the speed that its happening. 

I don't think that's about darkness. That was clearly about Dawning. 

Its not something that is supposed to happen yet.  And its possibly the FIRST case Trick sees it happen. 

What triggered it? My guess is the whole blood-binding stuff in S2 finale. Her powers were used to make her more powerful, but, in a way, it seems that it did so in a way of "temporarily" evolving her into the whole "I will rule over all of you" outcome.  

And now, even though the flood has receeded, the dam is still broken and the water is flowing free. That IS from DNA, the outcomes is because of Bo's identity as a person. 

To Bo's identity darkness is natural part of who she is. Its in her nature, but its also in her personality, in the decisions she makes.

Bo in overall represents chaos. Hell the way I saw the whole S2 plot was that Bo is simply too chaotic for Garuda to play her against others - there's no "order" to subvert and she is simply just too cray, dynamic and unstable in her behavior to find any sort of pattern for it. 

And that's not because of who her parents were - its because of decisions she made in her life herself

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