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Luana

And P.S. A Petrova is always a Petrova right?She's not miss goody good anymore lulllzzzzzzz

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Ellena

I've never seen a storyline so cheap and extremely annoying as this sire shit. The only sire bond of this show is the one that ties Plec with the love triangle.

Urgh, I'm of this show. 

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Ellena

off*

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@Kitanishi, that's a good explanation of the sire bond. It's not all about orders, it's like hero-worshipping, having the involuntary desire to please your sire.THe last season it was pretty much compared cult brainwashing(Scientology, etc), Tyler went for half the season looking like a basket case and praising Klaus, till Klaus made him hurt Caroline and he forced to change because of his love for her. 

I dont know how people got to rape..if I recall Elena almost ripped his clothes off and practically ate his face off..where's the rape?

 You don't have to be physically unwilling or resist to be raped. 

Rape in general is about taking away the victim's consent and will to choose to not go through with it. 

 

Any sexual act that is result of being unable to express your NO is counted as rape - be it because you are drugged, tied up or just mentally incapable to say no because of reasons.

Damon sleeping with "SIRED" Elena is no different than what he did to Caroline. 

 

 

Why am I warming up to Klaroline, they're sooo cutte lul

For same reason Serena hooking up with 2x older fugly dude is starting to sound attractive when compared to how chair was handled. 

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Veetayt
The quasi-dead Silas fellow already sounds boring from the grave. I hope he doesn't show his face. So is Plec going to have Elena deal with the consequences of all her actions so far or she'll have everyone come to her rescue and try to cure her of the 'sire bond' to Damon.
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Halde

Damon sleeping with "SIRED" Elena is no different than what he did to Caroline. 

Ehm yes. . . It is very different. Damon raped Caroline. Damon didn't rape Elena. Therein lies the difference. KNOWLEDGE AND INTENT IS EVERYTHING. He didn't intend to take advantage of a Elena's state of weakness, because he wasen't aware of it. He didn't know that anything was happening other than feelings developing. There is not a single proof that Elena was incapable of saying no to Damon. He didn't ask. She was the one doing the initiating. 

You can say, "but a drunk girl(incapable of saying NO) might not initiate it either", which is fairly valid. But the person about to make bad with the drunk girl, know exactly(unless they are both drunk as hell, in which case i dunno what it would be called) that he is taking massive advantage of her which would/could be called rape.

 

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The quasi-dead Silas fellow already sounds boring from the grave. I hope he doesn't show his face. So is Plec going to have Elena deal with the consequences of all her actions so far or she'll have everyone come to her rescue and try to cure her of the 'sire bond' to Damon.

Whatever she does because of sire-bond will get undone by unsiring her and making her human.

Whatever she did that is not connected to sire bond, will get written off as posession by Tatia. 

 

 

No one took responsibility for their actions yet, and the Her Holyness most likely won't either.  

 

 

 

 

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KNOWLEDGE AND INTENT IS EVERYTHING.

Wrong.

Not knowing that your actions are wrong does not excuse your actions. 

 

  There is not a single proof that Elena was incapable of saying no to Damon.

You mean except the whole Klaus/Tyler plotline?

 

 But the person about to make bad with the drunk girl, know exactly(unless they are both drunk as hell, in which case i dunno what it would be called) that he is taking massive advantage of her which would/could be called rape.

Not necessarily. Some people act quite similarly when completely drunk and when not. There's no definite "he/she is drunk" kind of thing. Some people get violent, some sing and lose motor functions and some look exactly the same, except for lowered inhibitions. 

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 Silas is the new supposed big bad?

 

 Wait for it - "omg because he is first vampire, everyone in vampire race is sired to him, except for those who  are already sired" Cue damon and elena going to save the day, yuck. 

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Veetayt
@Kitanishi, but being a vampire is supposed to magnify what's already there. So is this sire bond enough to explain Elena's 360 degrees from being a Mary Sue. Question is how much of Elena is in her actions and how much of her is not.
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