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KatherinePierceIsBringingSexyBack
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Sexyback
@VeevyTayt. The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is actually quite literally on my to-read pile. I don't know why I haven't read it yet. I will now.
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Veetayt
@Katherine. You should try the whole trilogy. I found the books quite enjoyable and a depature from the stereotypical heroine. I also found Lisbeth's character quite dark, disturbing and interesting at the same time.
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lul whatevs my dream is to turn my boyfriend into Philip Becker (Georgina's  whipped husband) lmao

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Elenalovesspn

Lol! My name's Sam actually. There's also this thing with jealousy and possessiveness. I think its cute. Really I do. It can even be funny and swoon worthy...to a point. Its like with these popular authors there's a disturbing level of craving to be needed and desired. Staring outside someone's window while they sleep? Ick. Slamming someone onto the bed (I'm guessing its because they are jealous of other lover?) Ew. And these girls don't even call them to order! And also, where are the jealous heroines? How often does a girl mark her territory with a guy? We all know you have to do that in real life sometimes. When you gotta give that sleazy bitch who's flaunting themselves at your partner that "don't even" look. Where's that? Possessiveness and jealousy is only a masculine trait apparently. Or perhaps a good heroine is above that

oh, it's there, but you see, it is described as bad, whereas male can do all they want with their girlfriend.

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 Had almost forgotten.....I think book Lisbeth Salander from Stieg Larsson's Girl With The Dragon Tattoo is quite okay compared to the other heroines, she's definately a character on her own.Agreed.

And  yet EVEN THAT book has a climax that depends on HER being saved. 

I guess perhaps women are drawn to these characters as a form of wish fulfillment? Self-insertion? I mean what else could drive a middle aged woman to fantasize about Bella and Edward screwing? Or daydream about a teenage vampire boy?

Every lead character is, in some way an author-avatar.

However Bland leads are NOT about that. 

Its as you guessed, quite correctly, about a blank slate - creating a "lead" with the least amount of unique traits possible, so instead of readers RELATING to the lead, readers can insert themselves into lead's place into the whole love triangle bullshit and swoon over "hot guys". 

The viewers who, for example, LOVE Elena, do not see her as Elena, they see her as themselves, and assign the BEST traits possible to her, because of that. And since the age demo to which the show belongs is filled with self-centered egoistic teenagers , any character that displays something they count as "negative" trait, gets shunned, because that's the norm in the society (thank you Taylor Swift and half of the popular music genre).

THese people do not want to relate to Elena, to be able to understand her. They want to BE her, not for who she is, but for who she is around. 

Staring outside someone's window while they sleep? Ick. Slamming someone onto the bed (I'm guessing its because they are jealous of other lover?) Ew.

This makes me wish that someone would write a book that would mirror Edward and Bella creepiness, but instead would end with girl calling the police and the guy getting thrown into psychiatric ward. 

 

 

  When you gotta give that sleazy bitch who's flaunting themselves at your partner that "don't even" look. Where's that?

Characters who DO that, usually get called "a clingy slut" by the fandom, while when a male character displays exact same creepy possesiveness, its suddenly "hot". 

uhhh.

 

 

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Veetayt
@Kitanishi. Yes Lisbeth had to be saved at some point but so did the hero. She actually saved his ass numerous times, and in the first book, the hero was the one who needed saving. I'd say Lisbeth and Mikael were equals, in fact I can safely say she was more than his equal in many ways, not to mention she was a genius too. The hero heavily relied on her than the other way round. And throughout the whole trilogy they never toned down her character to suit the hero. And even after she was cleared from prosecution by the hero's sister whom she took a very long time to trust. She still went and committed a vengeful murder, committed fraud got millions and fled the country. Without Mikael, Lisbeth could still stand out as a character from start to end.
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Floralovesgurlplz
I said oh my...what a marvelous tune, it was the best night ever won't forget how he moved, the whole place was up to the light 'n we were dancin, dancin, like we're made of starlight.
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Yes Lisbeth had to be saved at some point but so did the hero. She actually saved his ass numerous times, and in the first book, the hero was the one who needed saving. I'd say Lisbeth and Mikael were equals, in fact I can safely say she was more than his equal in many ways, not to mention she was a genius too. The hero heavily relied on her than the other way round. And throughout the whole trilogy they never toned down her character to suit the hero. And even after she was cleared from prosecution by the hero's sister whom she took a very long time to trust. She still went and committed a vengeful murder, committed fraud got millions and fled the country. Without Mikael, Lisbeth could still stand out as a character from start to end.I do agree that it looks quite nice, but there's still no real equality -Plot would not succeed without her getting saved there, and without her getting saved the male lead would look completely bland compared to female lead. 

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Charmed-jenna
Ooh ooh he's talking crazy, ooh ooh dancing with me, ooh ooh we could get married, have ten kids and teach them how to dream.
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Floralovesgurlplz
YESSSSS he said look at u worrying so much about things you can't changeeee, you'll spend your whole life singing the blues if you keep thinking that way, he was trying to skip rocks on the ocean saying to meeeee, don't you see the starlight starlightttt, don't ya dream impossible thingssss
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Vampire Diaries Quotes

You want a love that consumes you. You want passion and adventure, and even a little danger... I want you to get everything you're looking for. But for right now, I want you to forget that this happened. Can't have people knowing I'm in town yet. Goodnight, Elena.

Damon

Damon: You know what they are? Children. Like lighting a candle's going to make everything OK, or even saying a prayer. Or pretending Elena's not going to end up just like the rest of us murdering vampires. Stupid, delusional, exasperating little children. And I know what you're going to say: 'It makes them feel better, Damon.' So what? For how long? A minute, a day? What difference does it make? Because in the end, when you lose somebody, every candle, every prayer is not going to make up for the fact that the only thing you have left is hole in your life where that somebody that you cared about used to be. And a rock with a birthday carved into it that I'm pretty sure is wrong. So thanks, friend. Thanks for leaving me here to babysit. Because I should be long gone by now. I didn't get the girl, remember? I'm just stuck here fighting my brother and taking care of the kids. You owe me big.
Alaric: I miss you too, buddy.

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