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When Buffy, Spike, Giles - WHOEVER is mentioned in almost every single thread (okay, exaggeration!) then it's annoying.
Not every thread. Just where its relevant. People don't just go and bring it up in entirelly unrelated things.
Yeah, TVD is TVD...it shouldn't be compared to other supernatural shows, like they're something to live up to. That just makes TVD look like a waste, compared to them and I don't like that.
But thats just truth you see, TVD will pale in comparison to BTVS. In fact majority of the shows released after or befor it fail in comparison to it. Hence why one does not go comparing the entire show and its only healthy to bring up character comparisons in related themes.
Let's be fair: comparing tvd to BTVS is like comparing Pearl Harbor movie to War and Peace novel. BTVS is on entirelly different level of quality and comparing episodes or themes is unfair. However there is nothing wrong comparing developments of similar characters or scenes TVD takes from BTVS.I've never seen BTVS but I love TVD and I always will.
That explains your opinion. Otherwise it would be very self-explanatory and normal thing to compare and it would come naturally
Yes, I know Elena will always be compared to Buffy. But to ask the writers to make Elena the mirror image of her? That's just ridiculous...
Why? that would make Elena better and Buffy-clone is way better than Bella-clone.
. To be honest i'm surprised he hasn't done it already.
Well, some people have jobs;. Shocking, I know.
And why just compare it to Buffy, there's also twilight, True blood and being human.
1. Twilight is a valid comparison however that just DOWNRIGHT degrades TVD. Elena might be Belav2, but this show has far more redeeming points than Twiligh.
2. Funny you bring this up because twilight plain ripped off(unlike TVD, which copied) quite a few things from BTVS(like building destroying sex) and True Blood(while i do not really like that sitcom) is riddled with BTVS references.
Might be, but BtVS and TVD is both created on the same source of inspireration.
This too I agree. NOt to mention that BTVS ppretty much kickstarted the whole cult following on vampire fiction on tv. Every show since BTVS started, every movie since then has been compared to BTVS, I don't see why it should stop with TVD.
And yes, BTVS is inspired by TVD book premise, hence why basic premise is similar(blonde girl with bitchy personality and superpowers and the two vampires she is in love with). Joss Whedon, a genius and god-born-on-earth IMO, pretty much looked at TVD premise and made something grand out of it back then. SOmething that surpassed tvd books and every bit of vampire fiction or tv shows that would come in decades.
I come here because I like TVD, I don't want to criticize it.
Then don't but the fact that someone will remains. DEAL WITH IT. Thats freedom of speech. Its not socialism, fascism or some authoritarian regime where nothing bad can be said. Its democracy and population critiques.
Critique, constructive one will always remain as long as people can back the arguments up. As will comparisons.
Thats your problem, child. :)
Comparisons between the shows are bound to happen, especially when one show is as legendary and great as BTVS is and other show constantly tries to copy something from it.
Any show about a teenage girl stuck between two vamps, good and bad in mystical town and facing her destiny are bound to be compared to BTVS, not to mention that any female lead is bound to be compared to Buffy :)
and yet again wrong.
Superman, if wanted, could explode Lex Luthor by just looking at him with his laser eye stuff...or well do anything like poking him with his finger. The guy was weak, frail businessman dying of cancer. And yet when one thinks about superman or DC villains, the first thing that comes to mind is this guy.
Joker is pretty much human and would die from anything human would. And yet he is the best known Batman villain ever with Ledger's performance in TDK or Nicholson's original persformance still beng praised
_____ in buffy was completely human. In fact ANY of the main cast, with powers or without would be able to end that character in seconds and buffy punching that character would most likely result in big big splat. That character was not even smart. ____ was just ruled by the perfectly normal human desires, human behavior. Yet ____ was the cause of the most tragic event in the lives of the main cast. Someone who will still haunt their memories for years and years and years and decades. Someone the BTVS fans hate thoroughly and will hate forever.
_____ in buffy could not do ANYTHING, but talk and appear around the place. It literally had no way to interact with living world. Yet _____ filled the story with a real sense of dread, hopelessness and was one of the most exciting and prominent villains.
power has nothing to do with how appropriate and capable as villain is the character.
Lex Luthor had no powers at all during the best years of superman comic books, joker is bassically just a really smart madman, ______ in Buffy had no powers at all and was completely human, ____ in buffy could not even physically interact with reality, the main villain of watchmen had no superpowers or special abilities at all and all these characters etched themselves into history as VERY capable and unique great villains.
the tv shows need more borderline crazy and macabre stuff like that :/
Villain is not defined by its "powerfulness". its just a bonus, a placebo if you want to think of it that way.
BTVS episode "Amends" introduced a very unique kind of villain. One who was completely powerless strength-wise, in fact that villain could not even INTERACT physically with anything. And yet it succeeded on being scary, capable and threatening. Not to mention that eventually the villain who managed to completely destroy whatever was left of everyone's lives had no powers at all
You do not need to be powerful to be capable villain. Tyler's uncle was capable. He nearly got Steffie and Damon killed...afterward? Werewolves got lamer and lamer till the only thing what was left was a cheap plot device to get DE kiss through bite :/
and then we got HIGHLY unentertaining martyr Elena is Right storyline. The whole season ending after the show returned to airing with 2x17 just felt...off. Stuff was happening, the show was trying to show off and surprise but all it got was a resounding meh from audience.
WHich is to be expected. J.plec did let it slip that they had no idea how to do the season except for ending and beginning and that they just threw whatever they thought was "cool" to the tv screen. Heck, "Klaus Elijah are brothers and they have original family" was apparantly thought up seconds before 2x17 started filming...
Sometimes, I think Elena is a borderline sociopath.
Not sometimes. Season 2 pretty much proved that :P
Luana there are TVD forums that are very strict. They would never let that stuff with Halde thread fly. But they also got different areas to express your opinions. They have character and relationship discussion threads, character appreciation threads, episode discussions, spoiler zones and the dungeon. The dungeon is the negative area to bash and make fun of anything you want.
This is exactly the reason why so much confusion happens in this forum.
Some people are not interested in more complex picking apart ofshows pluses and minuses. Some people are only about love lala's, while some people obsess over every detail of the show and analyzes it.
Cue people's opinions and approaches to discussion not meshing well :P