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(your opinion, if not, evidence please.
I'll just leave this from wikipedia there then:
Buffy is notable for attracting the interest of scholars of popular culture as a subset of popular culture studies. Academic settings increasingly include the show as a topic of literary study and analysis...Nonetheless Buffy eventually led to the publication of around twenty books and hundreds of articles examining the themes of the show from a wide range of disciplinary perspectives including sociology, Speech Communication, psychology, philosophy, and women's studies.... The series, which employed pop culture references as a frequent humorous device, has itself become a frequent pop culture reference in video games, comics and television shows, and has been frequently parodied and spoofed. Notable examples of shows influencede: Doctorwho, MADtv, Simpsons, The Friends, Xena, Smallville, True Blood, Vampire Diaries, Gilmore GIrls, Farscape, Twilight Zone and Bones. There are space objects named after the show characters. Commentators of the entertainment industry including Allmovie, The Hollywood Reporter and The Washington Post have cited Buffy as "influential". Autumn 2003 saw several new shows going into production in the U.S. that featured strong females who are forced to come to terms with supernatural power or destiny while trying to maintain a normal life. In the United Kingdom, Buffy became a blueprint for the revived Doctor Who series (2005–present) Lost, Smallville has been started and written by BTVS writers.
So yes. Not an opinion. Fact.
I'd like to discuss the bad pointe but not how they compare to btvs.
Thats your problem, not mine.
Its perfectly fine to compare to the superior trend-setting show of same genre, same premise and same inspiration to draw out the bad points. :)
The original what? Tv show about vampires? There were indeed shows about vampires before Buffy, but if you refer to storyline etc. then Buffy was presumably the original (I haven't heard of tv shows before buffy that explored sexual relations between vamps and humans).
Original show inspired by tvd books. Original show from which the cetain scenes and characters in tvd come from. Original show to set the bar for vampire fiction. The show to actually set the standards of quality for tv shows. Original show to re-introduce the badass-main-female-character style into tv shows. The show to propel the gothic vampire romance genre into mainstream as well as set the standards and rules for it.
The fears of tvd that will most likely happen:Bonnie conveniently forgetting that she can mind-whammy Stefan or that Becky girl. Jeremy/Bonnie being dropped away at the most possible moment(am i only one who is reminded of heroes "pairings" with these two?) Character deaths ruined by huge revivals(jenna, john, etc) Them making every "fan favorite" villain immortal and good (plec implied that thats the reason why originals went more and more powerful and unkillable with every episode)
Heroes also had no timeline and thousands of unrealistic and stupid inconsistencies(solar eclipse lasting a hour? FOLLOWED BY ANOTHER ONE? and etc).
K.Williamson claims they "dont want to be Heroes", but this show just keeps slowly inching towards such ridiculousness.
Well you are free to do that.
Some people hope for quality and criticising and comparing to argument the critique or reinforce the points will always happen. Deal with it :)
Oh i still somewhat hope for that....
Yet season 3 is kind of too late to bring huge changes.In s2 my hopes were bigger for elena to get character development and importance, for timeline to be established, for characters to be developed, etc, but now? Call me far too cynnical now to have VERY high hopes of that :[
Thats why (another btvs comparison !Yay) I loved Buffy timeline:You had clear idea on how much time has passed from between each episode. Subtle or not so subtle. you knew how far in school year the cast is(and you actually saw them progress through grades, earn marks, go to exams, participate in carrier days, school football matches, etc). You knew when Halloween is, when Buffy's birthday is, etc... You knew when exactly the season ended or started in timeline. When the show had a timeskip, viewers got an exact number of days on how long it lasted in-show in character dialogue.
TVD lacks that clarity and it seriously messed with sense of realism and enjoyment the show could deliver.
Faith weren't wearing a mask. She was (i might sound Star Warsy) perswayed by the darkness and the power
Or did she?
Just like buffy at the start of season3, faith has lied all the time since her watcher was raped and killed. She sort of built up the whole no-bullshit-i-don't care attitude, hence why she broke down the moment she faced her watcher's killer.
Then when she took an innocent life it was quite clear that it affected her, yet when buffy confronts her she says she does not care - Faith has evolved her mask, how she sees herself to deal with the guilt. Its easier to always play the badguy than to accept what a screw up she was. For her it justified her not saving her watcher, her taking that life in the moment of euphory, her feelings towards buffy, etc. She got into that role so much that she started BECOMING the mask she wore.
Mayor for her was a replacement for her watcher she lost being "good", for parents, for family she never had, for friends she never got. All the more draw to playing the villain - being the badguy allowed her to think that her lie is alright, that she is cared for, has parental figure and life and that her mistakes are not mistakes, her cowardlice was not cowardice, her fear, frailty and pain was nothing but an illusion. THATS also the time her hatred towards buffy intensified - because buffy was what she tried to deny(and vice versa for buffy). Her S4 arc allowed her to see through the opposite mask and that was the catalyst for her own mask blowing apart slowly, but not fully.
Looking at buffy its true for Buffy herself too , but inverted. Playing the hero allowed her to not feel alone, to justify every action she took as being right, to deal with her family issues, her not really having a life or future as "part of her holy and important heroic job". Her self-loathing was highlighted as early as Season 1 episode "nightmares"- playing the hero allowed her to deny her own hatred, guilt, selfishness, her own darkness, her own "villain", her own "Faith" inside. She is the hero so her feelings towards others are justified and righteous! She is the hero so she is not just killing because she enjoys it, but because its right! She is not making decisions according to her selfish nature, but she goes for universally good ones! The life of hypocrite. With faith embracing the villain role, what buffy did not want to see in herself she saw in faith even more, cue more hatred between them.
Faith wanted to prove to herself that Buffy is just like her "villain mask", while Buffy wanted to erase/confront the "villain" Faith to be able to safely sit behind her heroic mask.
What happened in the end of season 3 sort of "realeased" that lock on Buffy and her personality was pretty much in transition during season 4. It all fastened up after her second encounter with faith - notably she started to grow apart from her "friends", mistreating them, neglecting them, brushing off their concerns. IT was a transition from a hero-mask to a shattered mask of a hero with a predator, a killer, behind it - something she did not yet accept during the fourth and fifth season fully.
Both Buffy and Faith were in darkness, enjoyed the power they had, got off from killing and having the right to do decide. The difference was how they dealt with it, what roles they took up to go with that.
And as Faith, sitting deep in the dark slowly started reaching towards the light she denied, Buffy slowly embraced her own dark she did not want to see.