Wolfshades
Gotham Round Table: Got Milk?

A beautiful woman, listening and singing along to an opera? What's not to like about that? I'm with Hank - I'd be putty in her hands too. The fact that Bruce is stepping out and demanding answers seemed very off-putting to me too, at first. Until remembering that the full-adult Bruce is somewhat of a genius. It makes sense that he's always been that, even before his parents were killed. I like the way they're growing his character - we can already see why he has determined to never kill any bad guys, regardless of how odious they might be. At some point though, Alfred's going to have to reign him in. He can't be seen in any way to be a crime fighter and must eventually grow into the public persona playboy we know the adult Bruce to be. He has to eventually fool even Jim Gordon. Overall, the depressing mood of this corrupt city is getting to be burdensome. Gordon is being made to look like he - and maybe his captain - are the only two truly good people in a city and police force full of corruption. It's overwhelming at times and, while it might be true of Gotham's history, it makes it a little hard to watch at times. I can't imagine writing for this series and looking for a way to relieve that mood - it's too well established at this point.

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Even though we disagree on this episode, I think what you wrote was well-said. There are indeed only a few minutes (comparatively speaking) to develop an entire story, when compared to a miniseries or a movie - and there is only so much they can do.

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I miss the keyboardist as well, and wish they'd bring him back. Thank you for the correction, by the way. I'll make the change shortly.

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Exactly. Couldn't agree with you more. It is *all* about the story-telling, and how well (or how poorly) it's done. The episodes can't all be gems. There are different writers involved, providing different viewpoints. No one should ever be bullied for having an opinion. Sometimes there are one or two who are either too emotional or too immature, who end up getting personal with their thoughts, and instead of arguing the points of the show, try ad hominem attacks against others with differing opinions instead. It's painfully embarrassing to watch.

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I think it's early yet. They're being careful not to over-expose her at the moment. Sooner or later we'll get a Kate-centric episode.

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*sigh* Mike you know very well that many people care - because we've been over this ground before. Just because you don't doesn't mean everyone else agrees with you. How about just speaking for yourself?

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Pretty much, yes. Maybe not as much but still a diss. Tony is an investigator, not a security guard. Guess he now can add that to his resume, right underneath "class clown", but before "desperate frat boy".

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I see it as a diss because Vance never told him what he was to do until they got to the washroom door, leaving Tony to feel proud that he was being included in the discussion - right up until that point. Total disrespect. For that matter, they could have used an MP for the job (or whatever the equivalent of that is for the Navy). They didn't need him. (Sorry I forget: was it Vance who told him, or Gibbs?)

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I've noticed that a number of shows do this. Does your PVR allow you to extend the recording schedule? Mine does - I can set it for five minutes past the hour, fifteen or three hours. Use it all the time (the five minute choice)

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Any episode that, if you removed it, wouldn't really be missed. The Shiva episode was critical, for example: it evolved some of the characters: like Vance, and like Tony. Some shows have full seasons of filler: marginally entertaining but ultimately inconsequential. Other shows - notably Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D or Person of Interest - have virtually no filler episodes. Each show has consequence and involves change. Sure we saw evidence of Mishnev in this episode but when you think about it: did we really? He was concerned about hiring a scientist. And his friend the counselor just wanted her back so she wouldn't spill any secrets to America. The scientist just wanted asylum. Big yawn and big deal. Filler.