Modwild

So why aren't you happy? Nathan and Audrey are together. They're happy and solving Troubles together. Everyone said that's all they wanted, and the moment has arrived. Do you really want them to be pulled apart again so they have story outside of being blissfully happy and chatting about socks? If Duke goes bad, that gives them something to do, together, that doesn't hurt their relationship. Oh! Yes. See? You should still be happy. The show isn't about a romance. There was one that came with it, but that's not the plot. Using other things to shake it up is well worth it.

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Yes, I can. Read Sojourners comment. He's speaking about what it means if women have sex before marriage and their tendencies for affairs. What about men? What good is one sided insight or statistics only on women? That was the point if the comment and it remains valid.

Modwild

And arrogance was part of Oberyn. So? No match, not that day.

Modwild

That made me laugh out loud.

Modwild

I missed his reference to night owls. As a fellow, what did he think of us?

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I wouldn't expect Felicity's personal life to be front burner, but she needs people outside the lair. She has no one and her mother, who could have been a cliche as she was described, was much different than anticipated. While she's pretty and works a blue collar job, she's not stupid or ignorant and it was obvious she loves Felicity and enjoyed meeting her friends. She could show up occasionally and eat a fat burger with her daughter when it seems like Felicity has nobody to talk to. I don't think having her be a normal person with a life outside the lair would make her a big difference to the amount of time spent on her character. And, I'm not an Olicity shipper by any stretch.

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I've been a fan of Charlotte's since 1987 when she aired on Days of Our Lives. She then went on to NYPD Blue and starred in a fun show called Beggars and Choosers on Showtime. I enjoyed her scenes with Emily very much.

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Neil will pick back up with Adriana. It's been said many times by the writers and producers how much they love the character, and as you expect Grace to pick back up with Simon, I think it's more probable that Neil will do so with Adriana. I do not believe there will be a pregnancy. That's not the story they want to tell. Just like there will not be a big physical or whodunnit story with Mallory's husband. They want to focus on the relationship and not the outside soap cliches.

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The tendency with my group of guys here is to always focus on the woman and her pre-marital and sexual tendencies. A marriage is of two people. What about men? What are the norms for when men cheat and what sex before marriage does to their decision making in the future? Why isn't that your discussion? From a genetics standpoint, I'd say we aren't monogamous. From a social standpoint, marriage was much different when people lived shorter lives, women were not in the workplace (and subjugated, as a practice...) affairs weren't a worry to men because they had them. Women knew their place and relied on men to feed themselves and their children. They were gifts to men, coming with dowries to make them more desirable. Essentially, when marriage started, there was nothing in it for the woman outside of security. It's not a pretty history from that standpoint. Marriage has changed rapidly in the last 100 years due to many factors. War, equal rights, prolonged life, the understanding that women enjoy sex on a physical level as much as men, etc. While governmental studies worry about shame after something like the Penn State debacle, I don't see long term studies about monogamy. Maybe I'm wrong. Doc? Relationships are more of a mystery now than ever before. We are living in a new world on the precipice of the future. My generation was the first to have a high rate of divorce. Does that change marital tendencies? Yep. The belief that it's forever has diminished. It's a romantic notion, not a practical one. People getting married for the wrong reasons doesn't help -- settling out of fear, marrying for money, marrying for lust. Who knows? Blah blah. :-)

Modwild

Nothing is pissing me off. Carry on! Golfingdocp knows I tend to disagree with him frequently. ;-)