I honestly have no idea what show you're watching. When did Abby show disdain for Jake? You're believing that because she yelled it at him during an argument? People say really shitty things to each other during a separation. They have respect and love for each other, but recognize their differences make it better for all if they're apart. Your evidence on Becca and Will has very little by way of backup. Your anger at Will being kind and caring for Abby is palpable. We never saw how Becca and Jake were at the beginning because we didn't see their beginning. Somehow you argue that circumstances put Jake into the position of caregiver, but you can't make that same argument over on Satisfaction for Grace. The show is for women, certainly, but did you know Paul Adelstein wrote the last episode? Yes. That Paul Adelstein. Jake.
I agree. I think Lisa Edelstein is amazing. Abby as a character is struggling to figure out where she fits in life, but in similar circumstances, who wouldn't be? Every character is struggling and I really look forward to seeing them find a good place, even if it's not what I'd choose for them.
GG2D hasn't indicated it was a conscious decision on the part of Jake to take over homemaking. He was unable to find work. It worked out that he could be there, but I've seen nothing thus far showing it was a deliberate choice on his part to give up his career.
You and I just have different ideas of what makes a marriage work, I guess. If someone checks out for five years, but the other person sticks with it, hoping to connect, begging and finally makes an emotional connection with someone else, I don't blame that person for ending the marriage. Like Jojobobo said, if Jake was tuned out for five years and skipped mattresses on the first hint of Abby connecting with someone else, he was probably too afraid to leave the marriage for his own reasons and hoping she'd make the first move. It's not easy to leave a long-term relationship, regardless of what you feel, especially when you've hunkered down into a routine that "seems" to work and you're not the breadwinner. It's interesting that Jake fell into a "thing" with someone who very clearly has a lot of money on her hands. She offers it to him freely. That's bound to be part of her appeal, on top of her other assets. On the other hand, Grace felt safe paying for her sex because it didn't mean she intended to leave the marriage. She can use the "you tuned out and I turned on" reasoning, but by paying for it it takes a bit of the sting away from her perspective, because she wasn't having an "affair." The lesson here in both cases is people can't tune out of their marriage and expect it to continue on happily. Seems straightforward, but we all know enough people who have gone through it to know it's never as easy as it seems to all of us on the outside looking in. That's why I try to look at if from everyone's perspective. I've been on multiple sides of the equation, and I cannot honestly say which one I'd want to be on ever again. Preferably none, but what are the odds?
No, you've got it right. That's why I questioned golfingdocp. He has more sympathy for Jake because he feels as though he has been portrayed as the woman in the marriage.
Except, over on GG2D Jake had a sexual affair prior to ending his marriage. Abby had an emotional affair without absolutely no follow-through. Jake did follow through. Both did unacceptable things prior the end of the marriage. I'm not sure how you can accept one more than the other given all of your previous conversation on this thread.
I had the chance to see the next episode today. It will be interesting to see how everyone reacts to it. I'm not going to say anything and I'll need another watch to gather my thoughts. I continue to feel for all characters, and that's why I really enjoy how different they are. I'm not sure I understand exactly where you're coming from with Jake. In our other discussion, I think you are protective of Neil at the expense of Grace. I could be reading your reactions wrong, however. I have no crystal ball! I see a lot of similarities in the breakdowns of the marriages depicted in both shows, even if their eventual circumstances are different.
It's a Twitter account. Here's the full link: https://twitter.com/GG2DTVF and the link to her reply (I don't know if this will work or not, so bear with me): @GG2DTVF @LisaEdelstein @adelsteinPaul @beaujgarrett I think I love that people either love or hate these women... In ep 6 you'll see why! — marti noxon (@martinoxon) January 3, 2015 <script async="" src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.j..." charset="utf-8"></script>
Shouldn't have and isn't have aren't the same thing. Since they really had no idea what the hell was going on with the dinner, I can see why the caseworker decided to steer clear. I, however, would have rocked the sauce off of that sushi! ;-)
I honestly have no idea how Lyla will be written out of the show. I know Janeane Garofolo and the series parted ways after six episodes. I expect episode six to be explosive, if what Martri Noxon said on twitter is true. I believe it was she loves that people either love or hate the women, and that will become even more evident in the next episode. It was in response to something in our @GG2DTVF account and this review. Follow us there!
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