Modwild

Memory only partly serves. Finn cleared up the call situation when he told Alicia the call about the stolen clients was directed at a man named Damien (could have the name wrong). She only got partial information from his assistant.

You sound very angry at the relationship between Alicia and Will. A lot like Hilliery, Dolly, Lettitia, Millie and. Puck, actually. You're so similar in thought it's almost as if you know each other.

While the relationship won't continue, Alicia will continue to struggle with it and what did and didn't happen as she processes his death.

Modwild

What's weird is I'm not so much interested in concrete answers as much as for them to give us a hint about the direction. Just a hint. Is it going to be an emotional journey without answers like the books or is all of this "connection" stuff, voracious eating and not sleeping (like in The Returned) meaning the show is drifting toward more standard TV fare? I'm up for either one, but not necessarily indecision. Does that make any sense?

Modwild

I agree that seeing the place blow up was thrilling. Knowing they couldn't go back even if they wanted to means they can only go forward. Without the constant worry of getting out of there, they can focus on a lot more now.

Modwild

I never thanked you, and I think I need to do it more now as I share my love for Hannibal. Do I ever expect to see someone used like lunch meat? Dear god I hope not. I also dig time travel and alternate universes. THOSE I could USE in reality! ;-)

Modwild

Trust me. Diane has the balls for the job. This will bring out sides of people we have yet to see. Dealing with death can change people and I'd say we're in for some changes on TGW.

Modwild

Honestly, the original intent of this poll was EPIC love and true love came in later. Everybody has focused on the true love part and we kind of have two conflicting feeds here. Take that for what it's worth.

Modwild

Don't blame Delena. It's the death of Katherine and the introduction of Tom. Who in the HELL names a doppelganger TOM??? Why not Stanley or Harry? Just Ugh.

Modwild

We're not as far outside of the same argument as you think. Joel's unhappy. He admitted he's been unhappy for a long time. It I think back to when Julia WAS working, Joel always hoped he would find time to make furniture and do his own thing. He wasn't pleased being the stay-at-home father as much as it seemed.

To try to fix what was already breaking, they decided on another child and with that Julia would take more responsibility. Unfortunately, it didn't go as planned and the more drawn out that situation became the farther apart they went as a couple.

They each married certain versions of each other and Julia was always a bit selfish. He knew that. He was always compassionate and caring. Is he allowed to grow? Yes. But they've grown apart so why try to stay together when they're not going to reach a good place? Joel turned down counseling. He's not interested in working on them. If that's his decision, I'm happy he's making one.

Modwild

Honestly, Bill, I'm happy that it's taking A direction, not in THE direction it's going. However, I gave up on believing any other direction was available a while ago. If they break up Joel and Julia and stop forcing us to watch the misery that they've become, maybe they can both become viable characters again. After the character assassination of Joel, he needs any help he can get to stand proud once again.

I like Hank -- just not for Sarah. I think Hank would ultimately be miserable with Sarah and also that it's horrible of her not to have made it clear sooner of her intentions when she knows he's struggling. But, that last point relates back to the first. They're not a fit.

This season has been so depressing that I have to finally lean into it and accept it's not going away and I'll take the white flag if they wave it and truly decide to move past the misery.

Modwild

I actually enjoyed all of the women in the episode and I'm not ordinarily a fan of Helena (although I love De Gouw). I felt such an overwhelming sense of sadness with each, however, it was difficult to watch. I took no pleasure in seeing Huntress v Canary because they were both fighting from such injured and painful places.

It will be most interesting to see what happens with all of the women by the end of the season. Do you think they'll all survive?