Mind you, I won't be upset watching that scene, either. I'm all for pretty people getting together. I doubt it will be a Season 3 thing, though. I'm thinking it's a longer term bet. I also see Ray finishing his suit a little differently, though. She's been helping him so he's kind of excited to show it off to her, I think.
Because I'm perpetually on the opposite page. I'll never match up. :-)
I'm so glad you chimed in. You covered so much so well! I've lost sight of the fact Malcolm seems to have had no reason to kill Sara. I even lost sight of the fact I lost sight of it. Talk about illogical! Thanks for the reminder. Your idea of the past and present converging would work really well, and I'd especially like to see more of Andy Diggle. I hope you'll weigh in more often.
It might seem easy to cover a show five years straight for 22 episodes a year, but it's challenging. Talking about the sweeping saga of Blue Bloods works great if you're checking in on it once or twice a season, but weekly it makes sense to examine the story through the characters, which is also the way the writers have chosen to tell it. Viewers invest in the Reagan family and their struggles and triumphs, while also recognizing they represent the many who work on behalf of the city. When one person is always the hero, it starts to feel a little too Die Hard and less everyday hero. :-)
No. I'm not wondering if Iris investigating STAR Labs is right. The question is referring to the episode and Ronnie Raymond. Outing Ronnie to get to Harrison Wells will not hurt anyone but Ronnie and Caitlin, as well as Martin and his wife and others. Wells would not be hurt. He'd find a way to save face, as he did with the press conference. You keep talking about the meta humans as if they're a sweet bunch. Yes, they were created by Wells. That is not good. However, humans deal with them with the likes of General Eiling. Also not good. Exposing innocents to the likes of Eiling, and there will be another to take his place, I'm sure, isn't good. What Joe is doing has potential to expose wells and they can stop him from the inside. The outside world isn't equipped to handle what happened. Eiling is how the outside world handled it. He was atrocious and, at this point, worse than the man who created the metas in the first place. Keeping them alive and sanctioned in a special prison is better than forcing them to be killing machines or whatever else the government would have in store. Earth. What lives would exposing Ronnie save, exactly?
I don't criticize "the writers" because I work under the assumption that everybody knows that the characters, the plot, the entire show is a figment of the writers, the producers, the directors...all of their imaginations. They're fictional characters and, as such, do not exist without someone writing lines for them. Therefore, I speak about the characters as if they're people because it's a lot more fun in the context of the conversation. People are allowed to find a fictional character annoying. Honestly, they can even hate her. It means nothing in the overall scheme of things. I didn't make the Grodd comment, but I'm not going to stop someone else from making it either. It's a comment about a fictional character. Keep things in perspective. As for the meta humans being locked up bit, they can escape conventional prisons. They would likely be killed if confronted and caught (which would be unlikely) by the army (who is called in under these circumstances...see General Eiling). So the argument about their protection makes no sense at all. They kill. They maim. They love doing it. The police can't catch them. How would the traditional justice deal with them? They wouldn't. Eiling was the answer. In is case, Wells was the better option. Yep. Tis true. There were four other questions on the table that were, frankly, a hell of a lot more interesting in the scope of The Flash. Take a break and talk about them for a while.
Misogyny and sexism? I'm a woman. This has nothing to do with her being a woman. The story isn't even hers. It belongs to Mason. I also do not hate Iris. However, your argument is ridiculous. Nobody is arguing her right to investigate. We're asking if it IS right, not A right. The question wasn't about STAR Labs, but about using others as evidence.
I don't hate Iris. I just don't like her very much. EVERYTHING is the fault if the writers. This is fiction. That's where I'm drawing the line. I'm not letting is discussion then into something else. There are no "true reasons" hiding behind the curtains. The character isn't being written well. If you are seeing something I'm not, that's great. Everyone has the opportunity to speak about it. Personally, I'm finding it difficult that Iris heard that big confession from Barry and never wanted to talk about it. THE CHARACTER forgets how close she is with Eddie and how that must affect Barry. Now she's investigating his friends to get to Wells. And, yes, they are his friends. If she exposes Ronnie it will hurt a lot of people, but Wells won't be one of them. Of course she's thinking about her career, and she should be. However, it's still a valid question to ask if exposing people close to Barry is e right thing for her to be doing at this particular point in her career.
Do not do that. This is a discussion about a character on a television show. Do not bring Candice Patton into the discussion. She is playing the character that has been written for her and nobody is saying otherwise. She's lovely. Stick to the discussion about the character.
The difference between Joe's investigation and Iris' investigation is that Joe's is private and Iris' is for public consumption. Joe is looking into it for personal reasons. We have no idea at this point what he will do with the information, but it's doubtful he'll be opening a formal investigation into the Reverse Flash or sharing what he discovers with the police force. On the other hand, Iris is investigating the connection between Ronnie and the Burning Man for an article for the news. She may be investigating Wells, but she's using evidence that will go public that's associated with others who have been harmed by him. You cannot blow the lid on a story without sharing the evidence. The evidence she had in this episode was Ronnie Raymond being the Burning Man. Even if she wanted to, she won't get to pause and think twice about what she uncovers before publishing it because she's not in it alone. She works for a major publication and is answering to Mason Bridges. If it was her blog, she could make her own decisions. Not now. Does that explanation help underscore the difference between the two investigations?
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