Modwild

I don't know what's been shot. Like I said, I could be right off my rocker. With split seasons I get totally lost anyway.

Modwild

I thought about watching Walk on the Moon tonight. Still may do after I review Doctor Who. Or else I'll just go easy and do some mindless entertainment instead. ;-) Enjoy!

Modwild

I completely agree that our personal experiences color the way we think. Since I've not chosen to make the leap to marriage, I know that deep love does not always lead to a permanent commitment. Don't postulate that any revelations about the Truman's marriage could show you that your wife may stray, just like watching Don Draper doesn't mean you will. It may very well be that Grace loves Simon, but we haven't seen that or been given any indication that love was there. It's been lust and desire. It doesn't seem to me that any of you need to worry about your wives. You all seem to communicate with them and share fully. That's really the battle that has driven Neil and Grace apart. They made assumptions about each other instead of sharing and that drove them apart and Grace into the arms of another. Neil's decision not to confront her about her affair drove him into the arms of other women, as well. It still all comes down to the unwillingness to communicate. Fear most likely drives people inward, because they don't want to know the answer. You have to have faith in the person you marry and be willing to let them go for your own sake if they aren't living up to your expectations.

Modwild

Adultery hasn't always involved women. Plenty of men shot away from their families for other men. You joked away a serious discussion about males and adultery because... why? Because Neil was trying to discover something about Grace. Grace was trying to discover something about Grace too. Guess that makes them even.

Modwild

Doc, to be Carissa, you're simply falling into a trap. I know a lot of women who are able to externalize sex. It's an act. Love is an emotion. I'm well aware of the birds and the bees. I am the only one here who has never been married. I've never felt an attachment strong enough to elicit that union. I am not the sole female who believes this. Maybe that's why women are getting married later than ever and yet still manage to have vibrant sexual lives. But, to make an assumption that you're going to connect to clinical facts about orgasm to mean brain = love is just false. Brain = multiple orgasms. Men aren't even needed for those.

Modwild

Neil wanted to learn what he could do differently in his marriage. What drove Grace away. The fact you've already labeled the man and woman in The Affair shows you are going into it with expectations and angrily, at that. There are four people in this next story and two sides of an affair. I'm not sure how that automatically makes a man mysoginistic or a woman misunderstood.

Modwild

Neil is not going to celebrate her success. While he may be proud of her, you could see the wave of relief wash over BOTH of them when the other suggested it as well. They do not want to walk into that therapists office and rip off the band aid. Yes. Neil used the idea of cheating as a vehicle for self discovery, but he also did it because it made him equal to grace. They both cheated. It takes some of the pain away to engage in the very thing that hurt you in the first place. It's sad that we'll probably never know. We will get to watch The Affair though, and see both sides of an affair from a married man and a married woman who engage in it, thusly cheating on their spouses. The way they see things is incredibly different. A whole new discussion is about to erupt.

Modwild

These discussions don't come up when people discuss the infidelity by Don Draper on Mad Men or the president on Scandal. They're both male characters that have screwed theopir marriages up quite royally with affairs. Not sex, but affairs. Half the men on Mad Men have done it. It's never much of a consideration overall. Interesting, no? Somehow the wives always come off as shrill bitches or uncaring or incapable of adequately supporting their men. Yet by the same token grace didn't feel all of her needs we're being met and she's still the bitch. Not much has changed about the male female perspective. Women are at fault from both ends.

Modwild

Maybe the gunman. That could jolt them to reality right quick. :-)

Modwild

And Neil wanted to go with Grace to Milan (they said it at the same time) because he has no interest in divulging what he has been doing since he discovered what she was doing. They both have a lot to wash out and they both would rather step over it for now. That's not going to last, but any spark could have given them the opportunity to grow closer to make it easier to forgive. Given the gun, that wouldn't happen. No Milan trip.

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