Modwild

If you think the marriage was well over before Simon appeared, then how can you blame Grace? We don't know the full story of their lives before that moment. It's really interesting that this show is features both a male and female perspective, because it's giving me some good insight to the male psyche. Not from Neil's perspective, but from a viewers. As a woman, I'm blaming both partners for losing sight of their love, commitment and vows. That doesn't to be shared across the sexes.

Modwild

You guys are completely unwilling to see any good in Grace. It's really sad. Somehow Neil has all these layers to his personality (that he for some reason doesn't want to share with the whom who should be the most important person in his life) but you have flat out decided that Grace is to blame for everything. I daresay people are projecting. Neither character has been open and honest about how they are or what they want and there isn't blame about who is ending the marriage. It's just a tragic situation.

Modwild

Neil hates his job so much that within one day he was willing to dial back everything, lie in court and take a boat load of money to continue that career. He knew how to do the right thing, as we saw in his courtroom fantasy causing Anika to rise and applaud, but he didn't do the right thing for himself. He chose to continue the life he had. I don't recall Grace forcing him to take any particular stand. I could be wrong, but I think that was all Neil's doing. I don't think Neil is invested in the marriage as much as he's invested in coming out on top and that's why when he found the artistic photo, he went berserk. Someone else saw his possession without his permission.

Modwild

I haven't watched this series since the first season, but I want to thank you for this comment. It made me laugh out loud. There were seriously no subtitles? That would have infuriated me.

Modwild

Nope. Her husband is a hedge fund manager. Finance is a top secret business. It's the norm that he can't discuss his clients so it wouldn't set off any alarm bells. I worked in that biz for over a decade. I wasn't even allowed to let some of the clients know why I was calling until they gave me permission to speak freely. LOL

Modwild

Gaping plot hole being the gold arrow? It was a trap, they didn't expect Robin to escape their grasp let alone understand aliens and spaceships. Who would know The Doctor would be there?

Modwild

I didn't read him as negative, but more residual effects from thinking he used to be Clara's boyfriend!

Modwild
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Darn it! I had the FNL Taylors. I lost them in the shuffle. It was a giant list

Modwild

I disagree that Grace is shallow. You're giving Neil a lot of credit but forgetting that he has a lot more information. Grace is completely in the dark about anything regarding Neil. Neil looks like he's got a leg up and is working on the marriage because he had proof of Grace's infidelity and tried to figure out how to proceed. Grace still just wants her husband to recognize her as an individual and not an accessory. He hasn't done that yet. Whether we think he wants to do that doesn't matter. He hasn't made his intentions known to the only person to whom it matters -- Grace. Grace came alive under Simon's watch. She doesn't love him or want to be with him, but she does recognize that she's not who she once believed she would be. Should she share these feelings with Neil? Yes. The crux of all this is their utter inability to communicate -- something they seem to have no problem doing with others, but can't do as a couple.

Modwild

I was confused about Grace saying that you have power when you receive a lap dance, too. And that's definitely what she said. Finding another woman attractive has little to do with sexuality, in my mind. I've been to strip clubs. And this is why I can understand that power concept. I was there with men and the women liked playing to me. I, after all, had money to share with them and I think they could sense I wasn't leering at them, but rather enjoying the overall entertainment value of the experience. Having money gave me a bit of power in the situation. I have to wonder if Grace will feel as comfortable talking to Dylan in the future.

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