Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

I think with the intention of "protecting her family", she paved the way to her own hell. What's that age-old addage? "Sometimes the hardest thing, and the right thing, are the same thing."

THIS SO MUCH. Especially since we see an intentional parallel of Cora doing EXACTLY THE SAME when convincing Regina

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

Contrary to Rumple, Cora, and Regina who CHOSE to do black magic to get REVENGE on someone, Snow saw it as the only option to SAVE her family.

Except not.
- She could have given the heart back without the curse.
- She could have not cursed the heart and just let Gold die without a new dark one.
- She could have simply crushed the heart.

There were many choices. some lighter, some darker. The one she chose was pretty much the darkest possible.

And she wanted to chose it - when Rumple, nealfire, emma and henry come back to ship, Snow starts a monologue about killing Cora, looking DIRECTLY at Rumple. And then in the shop she only chooses the candle after she gets that Rumple wants Cora to die.

In a sense, Snow was just like Cora in this episode - talking about "doing it for the family", but in reality fulfilling her revenge.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

Ok, now I'm irritated again - then why did it work with Belle? I mean, at that time Rumple surely was even more embittered (Milah gone, Cora gone) and on his guard (because Regina was all grown-up and very powerful).
Because with Belle, both of them started to BELIEVE it being possible, while that never happened with Cora.
That's the simple difference - being with Belle made him want to choose love he feels over pwoer, being with Cora it did not.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

If Snow considers Rumple worse than Cora, why *wouldn't* she have chosen the option where he died?
because, as rumple said - it would DESTROY Snow in the eyes of her family, especially Henry.
That's exactly what stops her from doing it - so she merely chooses the one target that would make the least impact with her own family.

And I am pretty sure that some part of her truly wanted it all to happen exactly this way -if only to make Regina feel how it feels to lose your mother.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

Ace , thank you. I was guessing that could be the solution (Cora and Rumple loving each other, but not being ment to be together in the way Snow and Charming are). But I wasn't sure.
I don't think its about "being meant", but more about what each of them feels at the moment.

In heart of darkness, snow/charming kiss did not work at first, remember? Because Snow was choosing her revenge of her love.

In Cora/Rumple case we have two people, who, while in love, are essentially building up walls and choosing power over love.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

(cont'd)
And not only that, but it also showcases that Snow is not viewing Rumple as suddenly good guy and views him as something just as worse as cora.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

But, I'm puzzled as to why the writers even brought up Snow's contemplation of that other possibility - just putting Cora's heart back inside her and letting Rumple die, thus solving this eternal plot/counterplot dynamic that's been going on for lifetimes. Now that I know Snow knew there was another way, I'm kind of ticked off at her for not doing it!

Oh but it actually is required as it develops Snow as a character - showcasing the lengths she is willing to go. In that one line she thinks about taking away the consent of one person(and possibly killing her after) and letting another person die, instead of saving ONE of them.

It not only showcases that Snow did not use the candle just to save Rumple - she never really cared about saving him. the writers carefully took away the excuse of "killing by necessity" with that line.

Snow's actions in this episode seem to be the first steps in a long storyline and I can't wait to see where it goes.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

I'm officially confused on the family tree! Can someone plot it out for me? Are Eva and Cora sisters-in-law? Or did Eva become Cora's mother-in-law? in which case didn't Regina marry her greandfather? or her uncle?
No. Cora and Ava/Eva are not related. Neither is Rumple and Regina.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

Snow did the right thing. Of course it's hard when the purest of all characters has to make the toughest choice, but I hope we won't see her condemning herself for the rest of the season.
I am actually hoping that this changes the modus operandi Snow so far had, as in, after a period of guilt, she starts taking more and more of those kinds of decisions, because just as we have seen with Rumple, Cora and Regina - while the first time is hardest and filled with regret, making those choices again and again after that gets easier and easier.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

I could not understand Cora's last few words of dialogue. Anyone?

"You would have been enough"

Its basically confirmation that SNow was not entirely wrong in her manipulation-monologue - had Cora HAD a heart, Regina's love would have been enough for her.