Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

- Good to see Sleeping Warrior being mostly canon now. NOw all we need is for Philip to heroically die again :P
- Sort-of shipping TInkerbell and Regina now. So much chemistry.

Overall this was like a dream of an episode for the fandom - canon LGBT character? Swan queen hilarity? Captain Swan hilarity? More reasons to hate Blue Fairy? YES PLEASE.

Do not envy Neal, Blue or Phillip fandoms though.
- Neal using a child as a bait was just...UGHHHH.
- Blue was being Blue.
- Phillip is totally getting "Die for our ship" trope from the fandom now.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

There also isn't any indication that Alice is from a different world than Story Brook. The only thing that is ever mentioned about where Alice is from is when she says she is from England. England exists in "the real world" so it wouldn't make sense to make her from a different world than what Story Brook exists in

Let's make this clear:

1. Till S1 Premiere there was no magic in the world where STorybrooke is so ALice could NOT have travelled to wonderland from it.
2. Since OUAT takes place in a multiverse, there's an infinite number of parallel realities with London.
3. Since in OUAT time travel is impossible(already stated by Showrunners), Knave and rabbit arriving to Alice would be impossible if its same world.
4. Since shorunners outright stated its a different world.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

Oh and also (didn't notice your second post before) there was no indication that this season premiere took place in season 2 premiere of OUAT. During the Season 1 premiere there was a storm, like in this episode of OUATiW (in the season 2 premiere there was no storm).
You mean except for the fact that the showrunners already stated it takes place during Broken, specifically during the whole Shadow stuff, about a dozen of times? Or the fact that Knave remembers? Or the fact that Cinderella is no longer pregnant?

There also isn't any indication that Alice is from a different world than Story Brook. The only thing that is ever mentioned about where Alice is from is when she says she is from England. England exists in "the real world" so it wouldn't make sense to make her from a different world than what Story Brook exists in

Considering OUAT takes place in a multiverse of parallel realities, there are THOUSANDS of worlds with England. Also considering timetravel is impossible(yet again stated by showrunners) and considering the psych wards NEVER were the way it is portrayed here AND considering magic was non-existent in "Storybrooke's world" till S1 finale(so Alice could not have travelled to Wonderland"), it seems to be fairly obvious.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

dimensions but other periods of time? Also, what it is it about the residents of Wonderland that allowed them to retain their memories when they went to SB (first the Mad Hatter now the Knave)?

Both are answered if you paid ANY attention to either of the shows

OUATiw pilot takes time during OUAT S2 premiere, so everyone already is off the curse.

Alice's homeworld is a different world from the one storybrooke is in.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

It was meant to be that way: kind of cartoonish and whimsical.
There's a difference between surrealistic cgi AND badly blended low budget cgi - its certainly case of latter and not former in this case.

The creators of this show have proven on Once that they can do good enough CGI
Except that CGI was never really a "Strength" of OUAT. FTL stuff looks good enough but everything else is very...subpar. OUAT lives off great characters, subversion of expectations and deep plotline - something OUATiw so far lacks.

1. I don't like the Queen of Hearts casting. She is no Cora. How did she possibly get control?

learn your lore.

REd Queen =/= Queen of Hearts.

One is a card. The other is a chesspiece.
One is a psychopath with anger management issues. Other is bureaucratic mastermind.
One is in one book. The other is in entirely other book.

Can you differentiate card games from chess or do you play your poker with chesspieces?

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

Really torn between Agents of Shield, Sleepy HOllow and Blacklist as all of them are essentially masterpieces with greatest possible actors and intriguing and well put plotlines.

Have to go with Blacklist, because James freaking SPader is BRILLIANT in his role and the female lead is competent, flawed and very interesting.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

As for love triangles and all that stuff - I'd rather the show never ever evisited either of the points - nor Nathan's creepy gross "epic love" nor Duke's (relatively less creepy) obsession. Because that's what is destroying this show and has turned Nathan into a gross misogynistic stalker :/

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

Very MEH episode.

1. Audrey not being Lexie makes the whole "BARN IS DYING OMG" shit completely pointless.
2. The whole episode smelled like a huge objectification of the lead female with everyone planning shit for her without taking her agency into mind.
3. They just made Nathan into a hypocrite. "No, I love Audrey" my ass - that did not stop you from getting your way with completely unaware Sarah, did it, you jerk?
4. Newgirl is still annoyingly pointless mary sue. The fact that I still can't remember her name tells all.

Now onto the good:
1. E.Rose's acting is BRILLIANT. I want a show with her, Anna Torv, Tatiana MAslany and Enver Gjokaj as leads.
2. Duke is the best developed character. We all know about his feelings for Audrey, but he is no longer the person he was in the pilot - he has grown so much. He is selfless, he is ready to pair up nathan and lexie for greater good, he feels sorry for paralyzed guy, he continuously puts his life on risk. Beautiful.

As for love triangles and bullshit - I'd rather the show never ever evisited either of the points - nor Nathan's creepy gross "epic love" nor Duke's (relatively less creepy) obsession. Because that's what is destroying this show and has turned Nathan into a gross misogynistic stalker :/

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

Quite disappointed with this:
- Overuse of bad CGI.
- Disjointed frantic plot. With A LOT of cheese.
- Logic-defying character decisions and stupidity.

The only good parts seem to be Jaffar/Red Queen plotlines(even if both of them give off the vibe of power rangers villains right now, visually) and the fact that the whole thing( especially Alice’s character as they seem to be touching upon what being locked in freaking mental asylum does to you) seems to be HEAVILY inspired by Alice:Madness Returns.

Otherwise, REALLY disappointed.

Kitanishi-h-mcdonald

Emily already knows Adien killed Tekeda.
Still does not stop them from having Aiden be the shooter and then getting stabbed with a katana through the guts in season finale.

so whats so horrible he needs take her down

Aiden has always been an obsessive controlling asshole, so no surprise there.