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Oh, so now all the suspense around 'Will she complete the transition, or die? Will Bonnie succeed?', which they've been hyping ever since the finale, is gone. She completed it. Okay, good, glad I won't have to speculate or feel excited. Spoilers are supposed to give us HINTS about what might happen, to make us excited. Not to give us a plot summary.

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I don't know, this whole character sounds a little bit too much like Faye for my liking... and great as PT may be, there's really no need for Hayley. If Forwood are to break up, I want it to be because of something either Care or Tyler do or feel, not because some new character suddenly shows up and ruins everything before the next decade dance. This is just too convenient for the plot(and fans) for me to like.

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So will we see Bonnie's father with her in the church or won't he be added 'til the plot needs him? (supposing that he actually exists)

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Screw this. I want an Elijah spin-off.

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@Amie Oh, we're not discussing the pointlessness that is Elena. I don't bother. It's Stefan's decision that's endlessly frustrating. He's an actual character with real issues, if you just ignore out a weekly inconsistency

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(cont) Point is, Stefan's an extreme with issues. Anyone BUT him would have saved their loved one. Though I must agree with @Bored Now on this whole thing could have been handled WAY better - at the end of the day, Elena was fully conscious and not injured, he could just have let her swim up on her own and taken Matt afterwards. Or, if her leg was asleep, he could have taken both. Problem solved, everyone happy. Sloppy writing, writers. Very sloppy.

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@Red I get your point about Stefan's nature and doing the selfless thing. However, this is not just about being selfish or selfless, it's about the person you love most dying. Saving her would have been human and natural. Stefan seems to be an extreme when it comes to decision-making, as his affair with Katherine showed him what it's like to have no choice and nothing to say. I think that's made him hellbent on letting Elena make her own decisions, regardless(just look at her latest deal with Elijah: it was his life, as well as Care, Damon and Tyler's that was on stake, not hers, and yet he let her take the wheels. It's either sloppy writing, Stefan letting his desire to let her make her own decisions overruling common sense, or both). There are, of course, more factors, I find it interesting that in season 2 he challenged her yet after his bender he lets her take the wheels(again, the deal with Elijah). And with that in mind, I understand why he did what he did.

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@RedOctober I think the reason everyone's so freaked about Stefan's decision is that there is no right answer. Do you save the girl you love, even if she doesn't want you to, or do you save a dude she cares about and let her die? That is a horrible ultimatum, and aside from Delena/Stelena shippers letting their ship cloud their judgement, what the individual fan think would have been the right choice is a matter of opinion and personal belief. Now, personally, I think that Stefan could have easily saved them both, so that makes the whole scene really annoying and slightly hard to take seriously, but if you're just looking at the ultimatum itself, I'm gonna have to agree with Damon. When the love of your life is seconds from drowning, you don't go all consequence ethics, you save her, and afterwards you say you thought she was pointing at a cute fish.

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@Veronika I hope so! I don't see why Elena can't wear bright colors and/or get a new haircut(shoulder length anyone?) If we have to endure a Mary-Sue being in every scene, at least make her pretty. It's Nina Dobrev, this should not be an issue

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Well, at least Elena being made human again is not about her being too wonderful to go through what everyone else is going through, it's more about Stefan's guilt. Thank god, that's not quite as Mary-Sue-ish as it could have been. Granted, there's still the little issue of Bonnie doing this for Elena but never even thinking about saving Abbie, not to mention that Elena's the main character and is now missing out on her one big chance to get something resembling a personality, but... whatever. I'll just fast-forward or something

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