Also Toby extending an invitation as a teenager knowing how his parents are and their feelings about Angelo was too much. I just don't think its the business of this extremely judgmental group of people to be so involved in Angelo's life without his consent. He's entitled to his own privacy. He shouldn't be required to have all his personal business out on displsy when no one else does. What goes on between him and this woman should not be decided by the entire kennish and Vasquez family. This continues to floor me.I'm not fully understanding regina and her hand thing. I think it could have been explained better. So no signing, hair, or painting but driving, writing, typing etc is ok? Why exactly can't she continue signing and is that somehow more rigorous than everyday activities with her hands?
Oh these people. That Natalie girl, I understand her position but bullying is still bullying. No one gets a free pass. The irony of her being so snotty is that she's treating hearing people the way she hates them treating her. Why take it out on the people who are making a conscious effort to communicate with you the same way you get pissed at the people who don't and expect you to adapt? Not even knowing these kids and why they are doing this, like wonderful Noah who was most compelling. I adored his character and his story, reminded me of a relative. Melody has always been a grown up mean girl. Her reaction didn't surprise me. How is it Angelo wasn't even IN the episode and they still found time to berate him? Still not getting the Angelo hate fest, imo it reflects poorly on the other characters and is overdone. I don't trust or get the pregnant girl.Still makes little sense that she's around just because.
I actually like Tamsin. The girl got spunk. I don't hate it. I've caught all the previous episodes but for some reason I don't recall when and how vex became part of the group,hanging out with kenzi (which I like oddly enough) and living with her and Bo. Can anyone help me out with that?
@R Right? Like I don't typically read too much into stuff like that but it felt like they went out of their way to imply this new sense of awkwardness. Especially given Aidens terrible luck with women human and vampire. I don't know if they'll actually go there or if I want them to but I noticed that too.I think now may be the best time for him not to get distracted by a woman as he's known to do. Oh Sally, I knew that was going to happen the moment she seen the guy but I guess she wouldn't be Sally or help the story any if she didn't go against the warning. I was happy to finally see the reunion I needed to see between the friends.Agree with this completely. Especially about the werewolves. Ugh I was so over them (and mother and suren) last season so their father coming made me sigh. Its been a year.
I mean if we are so willing to differentiate between "normal "people then why get so up and arms about fictional ones?
Doesn't mean I condone sociopathic behavior or serial killing. Its great that philosophy is brought up. As a social scientist I find these discussions interesting and find that snap judgments made from tiny facets of a character or the people who like that character more specifically kind of sad. Especially when some of the people guilty of such didn't like it or got equally defensive when it was thrown back at them. I never demand to know why people hate a character and ask in such a tone that implies that that person is somehow wrong for hating them. My overall point being extend the same courtesy.
I never said that anyone who doesn't like Olivia is sexist. But I did point out sociologically if you will that in general I find the response to Olivia's actions over anyone else's to be interesting. She's often times held to a different standard than most of the other characters. IN GENERAL. Scandal conversations have brought up all sorts of interesting points about politics, marriage, race, gender roles...I thought it was a valid part of this discussion which I've had plenty times before. Apologies if it got people hot and bothered. also find it disheartening that just because fans choose to like Olivia Pope as a fictional character their morals as human beings are coming under attack. Honestly, I'm more than willing to admit that I get defensive about that. I understand why people may not like Olivia when they make fair points so why call into question why people do? My generalizations can just as well be in response to sweeping accusations.My favorite character is Huck. Doesn't mean I condone sociopathic behavior or serial killing in reality.
I loved that Jackson stood up to Arizona. She's one of the most irritating characters. Too condescending for words. I like Owen and Yang together. It works. Derek can be such a self righteous jackass. Out of nowhere he decides to blame Owen for everything which it was too many factors to put it all on him. Plus he was Chief before. He knows what type of decisions are made. Hell, the hospital got shot up and people died under his watch. No suits came from that, no responsibility for crappy security features. No blame. Bailey's story was hilarious. I don't mind Alex and princess as friends but unfortunately I doubt it'll Stay that way. The naivete of the settlement is shocking. Did they honestly think they'd still be working there after that? And that was before Owen found out the hospital could close. Insurance companies and their loopholes.
@CleoArizona is NOT Jackson's superior. He's an attendee now. And as per usual she interfered with stuff when it wasn't necessary. I'm sorry but she can be rude, condescending, and a royal pain in the ass. Why not respect the fact that he was Mark's progeny. The chosen one who kicked ass in plastics. Mark is gone now, and it was clear Arizona wasn't coming to grips with that and overstepping her bounds. She still treats them like residents or interns rather than peers. You can't instill in them all these teachings and then not trust your own work and their abilities. Also has always been inconsistently written, sure at one point he was klutzy and botching surgeries(as were most of them honestly) but when he first came he was the rockstar giving Yang a run for her money. Avery only lacked skill after that shooting in the hospital. I chalked it up as PTSD which he clearly had.
@Marcus. She's flawed. She's human. I can write an essay on why I like Olivia Pope. I can go dissect the sexist response some viewers have in response to her character because I guarantee you a great deal of the naysayers wouldn't detest her or many of her actions so much if she were a man. Case in point being the disdain you exhibit over Olivia's infidelity but no mention of the same disdain for the married man cheating on his wife (who has also cheated on him because the irony of the sanctity of marriage being crapped on is that the Grant marriage is a orchestrated business deal more then anything) . I could discuss the realistic portrayal of a strong woman who is also vulnerable and successfully manages to break free of some of the stereotypes women and African Americans are pigeon holed into. But it'll all come down to her being flawed and human. And no matter what anyone says your mind won't be changed so why bother asking? :)
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