Now, THAT was the meeting we've all been waiting for.
On Game of Thrones Season 7 Episode 3, Jon and Daenerys finally met up and had a lot to say to one another.
Below, TV Fanatics Christine Hinton, Robin Harry and Carissa Pavlica discuss that meeting, Cersei's plan and more.
What did you think of the meeting between Jon and Daenerys?
Christine: It was certainly awkward and tense, but that’s to be expected when neither party wants to back down.
They are both smart, compassionate leaders and what I felt most was anticipation for the day when these two finally end up working, or fighting, for the same goal…or better yet, when they become the power couple of the Seven Kingdoms!
Robin: Man, I loved the awkwardness of it and the contrast between the two of them. I have to admit I was team Jon; it was a bit presumptuous of Dany to just expect people to kneel before she's done anything for them worth their service.
I also really loved Tyrion's diplomacy and his deftness in handling the two of them. I enjoyed everything about the meeting of ice and fire!
Carissa: The two are both so reserved and have honed their communication styles to such great degrees it was a joy to watch.
Tyrion's mediation skills were the perfect foil for the two, and while it came to mind Dany and Jon have a lot more in common either will likely ever know, I can't help want to see them working side by side in more ways than one. Thankfully, we've already seen that incest in this world isn't an utter disaster, and even if the two might be closely related, someday...
What Will Daenerys want in return from Jon for the Dragonglass?
Christine: Well, he’s obviously not going to “bend the knee, ” but since many of her allies were just slaughtered by Euron Greyjoy, she could certainly use Jon Snow on her side. The problem is that they are both fighting different wars. It will be interesting to see if they can figure out how to work together.
Robin: I agree with Christine. I think Daenerys is at the point of needing Jon as an ally, rather than "wanting" anything from him. That said, I don't think she has the humility needed to ask for help, so I'm intrigued by how they'll develop the mutually beneficial relationship they both need.
Carissa: Daenerys doesn't know now what she'll need, and neither do I. But by allowing him access to something that will help him, the means to procure it and offering a good faith gesture what his white walkers might be just as real as her dragons, it set the stage for something down the road. That's all that matters right now.
Was Cersei's revenge plan against Ellaria a good one?
Christine: Talk about taking the “an eye for an eye” concept to a whole new and horrifying level.
Her plan to have Ellaria watch her daughter die from the poison and then force her to watch her daughter’s body decompose was depraved. If you can say one thing about Cersei, it’s that she puts a great deal of thought, planning, and imagination into her revenge.
Robin: As much as I loathe Cersei, that was pretty fantastic to watch. I can't fault her for dealing out some sort of poetic justice to Ellaria for killing Myrcella, because Myrcella was an innocent child. That said, maybe she should have waited a little bit, given what Jaime just found out...
Carissa: Good isn't the word I'd use for it. It satisfies Cersei's level of pain over the loss of her daughter, but leading by fear isn't a good idea no matter how deeply you want the revenge. It's a shame Cersei never had the opportunity to learn that.
What Will Jaime do with the knowledge that Olenna killed Joffrey?
Christine: Wouldn’t it be curious if he kept that information to himself because he didn’t want Cersei to go off the deep end? I’m not sure what he’ll do, but I’m interested in whether Oleanna’s words about Cersei being a disease resonated at all with Jamie.
Perhaps those words, and her expected tryst with Euron Greyjoy could be the seeds that sprout a rift between Jamie and Cersei.
Robin: I think he'll tell Cersei, and I'm hoping their differing reactions will trigger something in Jaime. He truly loved Tyrion, and I think he'll finally understand how unfair everyone had been. Cersei, though, either won't care, or she'll double down on her its-all-about-me-ism (she barely cared that Tommen killed himself).
I think, though, he'll also realize that Cersei set Shae up to lie about Tyrion, triggering a chain of events that lost him their whole family. If that doesn't get Jamie seeing how awful Cersei is, nothing will.
Carissa: Jaime loves Cersei, of that there is no doubt. But he has also struggled with who she has been becoming. Jaime isn't a monster, and learning he's lost his children because Cersei's behavior has led others to want to hurt her more than end her life, he'll want to distance himself.
He might be the one person who sees the benefit of putting her out of her misery.
How long will Bran spend at Winterfell?
Christine: I don’t know, and I can’t say that I care. I find Bran being the three-eyed raven one of the least interesting plots on the show. And can I mention how disappointed I was that Bran was at the gates of Winterfell and not Arya? I just can’t wait for the Arya and Sansa reunion!
Robin: I'm hoping he might head to the Citadel and learn some more about being the Three-Eyed Raven. I feel like the best character to play off him right now might be Sam. He's got that lightness that would counterbalance Bran's heaviness. Christine - it's all about Jon and Arya for me!
Carissa: Bless Bran. The most useless character on the series. He's all grown up, looks ridiculous and has not a single emotion. But hey, he's the three eyed raven! What was the question again?
Let's be honest, even Sansa didn't know how to react. Did she even know who he was? I'm pretty sure someone ran up behind her and whispered his name in her ear.
How did you feel about both battles having scenes cut out?
Christine: I was surprisingly okay with it. We’ve endured an awful lot of battles on this show. They can be long and bloody, and I’m okay with that in limited doses, but I was happy we got to skip those scenes this time. I’m sure there will be plenty of that to come.
Robin: I'm fine with that. The Highgarden/Casterly Rock battles really weren't going to come close to Blackwater, Hardhome and the Battle of The Bastards (still my favorite). At this point, if it's not going to be epic, let it be short.
Carissa: This particular episode had a lot more to uncover than who won the battles. The winners were clear before the battles began, so walking over dead bodies was the correct message to send.
The point to the battles was the information revealed once they got there, and the gut punch to Jaime was far more than any battle could relay.
Okay, so there you have it, Game of Thrones Fanatics. What did you think of the questions? Hit the comments!
Note: Game of Thrones Season 7 Episode 4 airs August 6 on HBO.
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