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3. VISUALIZE/STILES. This is where RJ hides and finds gullible minions. It is a church, so the FBI can't investigate it closely (main reason they need rule-dismissive Jane). RJ started as a random typical serial killer. He found Visualize at the Eliston Farm, discovered evidence proving Stiles killed Farragut and uses that to force Stiles to cover for him and supply his financial/political/minion-recruiting needs. 4. KIRKLAND. Started serial killing as an outlet for mistreatment as a child. Joined FBI around 2000 or earlier and after 9-11 got the HLS job (serial killing hobby never discovered). Involves Visualize in HLS because it's a global organization that HLS needs for info gathering. (Real life: After WWII the U.S. appointed an ambassador to the Vatican because it is a monolithic global org with "listening posts" - aka spy networks - around the world. Intel can be gathered secretly through Vatican channels to U.S. Government. Visualize emulates that.)

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I will be so embarrassed when the TM writers show how wrong I am, but I'm going to try to put Heller's major puzzle pieces together. 1. WM BLAKE POEMS. Central puzzle piece. Others have to fit around it in some philosophical way. These have been a foundational plot subtext throughout. Bertram and LaRoche exchanged knowing comments on them. Meaning: Good and evil are in the eye of the beholder. Deceptive wiles underlay innocent smiles. Things are not always what they seem. 2. JANE. In Red Brick & Ivy Jane left the insane asylum in good shape. In Red Dawn he shows up at CBI immediately after as a disheveled derelict, yet able to finagle the RJ files for himself. Ergo: The FBI saw Jane as someone with the motivation, discipline and skills to find RJ without bothering with rules that restricted the FBI. He is working secretly with the high level FBI agent(s) who arranged this. It is part of the 30% he doesn't tell Lisbon. (continued)

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do you know a site where I can watch live?I'm in Uk.What time does The Mentalist start?Is it estern or western Us time? thanks!

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my question is : who dies in this episode??/or, who is going to be hurt?

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I think the season's premiere is going to be....emotionally violent!yes, these are the words!start counting!;))))))

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can't believe tomorrow is Sunday!!! It's here!be ready!:))

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Continued- Red John is more sinister because he will create a traumatic event to make the person needy. Then offer his services. This is what Jane knows about Red John and why Red John can't turn Jane. Jane is not a needy person and he knows the con. Red John offered Jane money, a new life and a woman. A real needy person would have fell for this trick. When tricks and the con don't work that's when threats and violence come into the picture.

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@Rationalgal, I've seen so much of this kind of crap. It happens everyday. People being manipulated, conned, tricked, scammed and so on. What The Mentalist is working with is a really sinister notion of the idea. People need psychological education. If religion was demystified people would not be so easily conned. These areas are almost taboo subjects and really aren't discussed as openly as they should be until it's to late. Really needy people have a tendency to fall victim to these types of cons. The Red John character always seeks out needy people or people who have had a traumatic event in their lives. They are looking for support systems.

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Ani, it scares me to see how vulnerable people are to suggestion. In psychology class we learned of the Milgrim experiment where subjects were told to press a button that supposedly (it was faked) shocked a person (acting the part) on the other side of the glass if they gave a wrong answer. The "shocks" got stronger and stronger with the actor writhing in pain. Some subjects actually pressed the button to the lethal level just because they were told they were supposed to do that! Another experiment. Subjects were shown a range of vertical lines from short to tall. Some of the people were actors. They kept saying the short line was the tallest. One by one the others succumbed to the group pressure and agreed. Only one woman held out, calmly saying every time, no, the short line was the shortest. That forehead pressing preacher you saw was pulling the same scam. Stiles & Visualize represent this kind of evil.

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Right, Creamy! Big Bad (Red) John, whatcha gonna do when they come for you? Great song fit! I hope to see lots of RJ victims coming en masse for him. With torches and pitchforks would be a nice touch.




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