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7 deadly sins: pride, greed, lust, gluttony, envy, anger, sloth. 7 suspects: Stiles, Bertram, Kirkland, Partridge, Hafner, Smith, McCallister. Who fits what?
Pride: Stiles? (seems pretty boastful)
Greed: Stiles again? (has greed for power)
Lust: McCallister? (seemed kind of lustful over Van Pelt in S1)
Gluttony: Smith? (someone noted that he is overweight. can't remember.)
Envy: Hafner? (over Jane's superior abilities?)
Anger: Partridge? (reenacts murder scene like he's full of anger). Kirkland? (seems wound up about something)
Sloth: Bertram seems kind of lazy.

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@ Rainman,
Check Reviewbrain at Wordpress blog for The Mentalist season wrap-up by Violet. Posting links trips moderation glitches. Here is the quick and dirty.

1) Pride - Stiles
2) Glutony - Bertram (power not food)
3) Greed - Kirkland (for information)
4) Sloth - Haffner (too lazy to control Jane, leaves CBI for easy money through joint Visualize venture, tried to lure Lisbon with easy money)
5) Wrath - Smith (introduced to the audience getting aggressive with Lisbon)
6) Lechery - McAlister (only suspect to exhibit interest in females, complementing VanPelt)
7) Envy - Partridge (over Jane's knowledge of RJ)

Some are stronger than others. Someone also pointed out the 7 virtues, which Lisbon does the best at representing them all.

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I go with the idea that we should look at what we actually KNOW about RJ and see which of the 7 fits that. We can speculate endlessly about what this or that means but things can mean anything we want them to. I don't see Jane's father as RJ or even associated with him because that would mean he killed or helped kill his own granddaughter. Can't see any motive for that. He is also too old by now. The killing was directly in response to Jane badmouthing RJ on TV, so that has nothing to do with Jane's father. There IS something in Jane's carney background that has to be revealed in S6. Why was Jane's father still wearing a wedding ring? Jane's mother was nowhere around or ever mentioned. Did she die in childbirth and Jane's father blames Jane? People do dumb things like that. But that's empty speculation again and doesn't count. Add up ONLY what we KNOW and see what we get.

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There's quite a discussion of the seven suspects and the seven deadly sins as well as the seven virtues on Reviewbrain, @Rainman. Worth a look if you like symbology.

Someone on Tumblr today said that Owain Yeoman said that what he meant to write was, "He is many." I hadn't heard that definitively before and I don't know the source article.

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Yes, that is the one I was talking about. It's quite compelling, and would put to rest the ridiculous theory that Renfrew wrote the message. As if Red John would leave him alive to write it. Makes no sense.

If you can, elaborate on the 7 deadly sins thing. Im interested.

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@ Rainman,
Interesting thought on 11e 15 mar, you are refering to Euthyphro, yes? It has been awhile, but you are referencing the argument that morality cannot be determined solely by divine authority; that what is "holy" and what is "approved" have different meanings, thus "holy" and " approved" are not equivalent? Hence,you are thinking the message was written by RJ (or a disciple) as a message with Renfrew's blood to Jane?

An interesting thing I read on the 7 suspects as how they each can be used to represent as one of the Seven Deadly Sins.

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That's how much I hate Red John and all of his crap! Ok! I'm off...........

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Red John quote..........."I hate cheap imitations of my work." You know what I say to that! SO! You know I would so love for Jane, when he finds Red John, to be standing in his bed room, directly over Red John's bed and soon as Red John sense's something is wrong in sleep, wakes up in a state of shock and sees Jane standing there.....for Jane, with one big punch, to hit Red John so hard he passes out. Then when he wakes up again, have Jane ask him if he saw that coming!

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Sometimes I feel like Jane, I feel I'm this close to the answer and then, and then. I do feel that the anwers are contained within because I keep finding things I didn't see or notice before. Yes, no, maybe, never mind!

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Volker, he showed us that he really is connected to Red John! He shows some of the same type of abilities that Red John has. He made people quake in there boots,kill for him and kill themselves. This is not a coincidence! Volker is probably connected to Visualize! He is probably getting out of jail right now! I don't think now that it really matters who Red John is. The big reveal and the connections and motives behind it all is probaby going to be more exciting then the man himself. I still want to seee Red John get his but I'm so, so, so curious about all the crap behind it all!




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