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Entwife

There's a season 6 spoilers article called "The Mentalist Season 6 Spoilers: Jisbon, Jane, Red John and Cho - First Moments [PHOTOS]" with a few interesting tidbits in it. Mainly, Lisbon will act awkward around Bertram and Cho will pick up on it, so I guess they don't tell the team about the suspect list. Wow.

And, Jane will start the season doubting the validity of his list of suspects.

Abbsolute55

"And Lisbon is the only next thing, other than tea and eggs, maybe, that he really likes" Hahaha Entwife you crack me up!

Abbsolute55

talk to you later!

Abbsolute55

Hi guys! Oh là là, a lot to catch up! I wish I could come more often on this site, but it seems there is always something or someone preventing me from it stealing my time like a vicious thief. First of all thank you Entwife and rationalgal for your nice comments about my little story. I didn't catch up all the reading yet, but I totally agree with what you're saying about Jane loving the nature. Jane is a very smart person, very intuitive, he can understand human nature better than anybody else. But everyday he is confronted with the world of adults and society: people lie, they're hypocrites, they can be monsters...while nature and kids are pure and innocent. They don't lie like adults do. Nature is real and true and beautiful. Nature was here before us, and will continue to exist after we're gone...so it deserves huge respect. Nature is part of the whole big picture, the universe...we came afterwards and it thanks to her we can live. There you go, I have to go, of couuuurse! Talk to you later!!

Entwife

So totally agree, Chili. Cruel to separate Jane and Lisbon. For what? Edginess? Nuh-uh.

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rationalgal, to this:

"So I don't expect a Moby Dick ending, tho it's been hinted at. Jane deserves a really really happy ever after ending."

i've said before that it's not just Jane, but Lisbon that cry out as damaged, deserving characters who deserve a happy ending. and, indeed, why not together? it would be cruel, i think, if that didn't happen.

Entwife

I think you're right rational gal. It shows that Jane is very attached to life, and the new life that babies and children represent. He certainly can't be as happy being in Lisbon's company, as much as he likes it, because he can't just let go and enjoy her in the natural way it would go, and I guess neither can she. And Lisbon is the only next thing, other than tea and eggs, maybe, that he really likes. Kinda angsty, that.

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Entwife, yes I've noticed Jane's love of nature (as well as his endearing attachment to little kids). It's part of his sweet, childlike persona, so happy with simple things. It may be showing how the murder of his family changed his outlook. In the pilot his Malibu house is first shown fully furnished, very expensive, very materialistic. At the end, after his family's death, he goes back and the house of empty, barren, the only thing left is his little girl's tricycle. It tells us how Jane has learned life's real values. Cho said the one good thing about his family's murder was that it made Jane a better man. In addition to that, I think the show is telling us that, even tho Jane says his death is a price he is very willing to pay to kill RJ, these other things show that, deep down, he really wants to live. So I don't expect a Moby Dick ending, tho it's been hinted at. Jane deserves a really really happy ever after ending. He's just so sweet, innocent yet worldly wise, and lovable!!

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More thoughts on understanding RJ. We always see RJ as an educated, well-mannered person - a killer with a pleasant, good-citizen facade. He disdains "lesser" people. He's an elitist snob, probably raised by parens who were wealthy, respected, & civic minded elitist snobs but severely abusive to RJ in private. RJ became a serial killer as his only way to feel in control of his life. The pilot episode showed Dr. Wagner as a pillar of the community, yet secretly a killer whose conscience was clear because he did good works - a showcase of RJ's thinking. The show is all about these 2 sides of good and evil, as in the PBS nature shows Jane watches. RJ disdains Jane as of unworthy status, a carney hustler with pretentions. He called him a money-grubbing fraud and a dishonest little worm, with the nerve to badmouth the superior RJ. Jane noted how well Wagner cut up his victims - with a doctor's skill. So do any of the 7 have medical training?

Entwife

Cont'd-----> From the very beginning, in “Red Dawn," he asks if the team is going to the country to investigate a murder, hinting that he would like to go if it means away from the city and in a natural setting. It’s touching, makes him appealing, irresistible. It makes me think he can heal, and he is drawn to, knows that he needs a natural life (preferably with a wonderful woman, like Lisbon maybe :).

It’s a long-standing theme. I wonder what it means?




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