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My biggest question is the motivation behind going after Gibbs. Over the past 10 years he (and his team) has done many things to "get their man" that can be considered illegal. Several come to mind besides the obvious Hernadez which has been over played so I do not think that is it. This arc reminds me of another fictional charactor from a now canceled show who did similar questional things - Brenda Leigh Johnson from "The Closer". She commited several cold blooded murders to close her case but was a well liked charactor and was never procecuted. Gibbs will also survive I am sure.

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I loved the episode. And I am so worried for Gibbs. The episode was pretty amazing. But I admit I could do without that Tiva, will they won't they. THAT for me has been done, done again, and again. Seriously.

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I felt bad for Tony he told Ziva he was was there for her and hurt that she still felt alone poor Gibbs is getting investigated once again. Colin Hanks does look Sean Colin looks like his father. I didn't like how they call Tony a car killer when 2 out of the 3 times he wasn't even in the his car went they got total one was stolen one the other was undercover car that La Grenouille body guard was driving, and the last one we all know why that happened.

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I'm getting fed up with this show. As someone pointed out, the whole investigating NCIS people has been done. However, this is the first time that I have agreed with the "bad guys," or the investigators. I don't think the team is behaving in an ethical manner, and this makes me angry with the writers. We all know it's going to get washed over probably by the first two or three episodes next season. They were wrong, wrong, wrong for going after the killers of Eli and Jackie in the manner than they did, and I'm not really sure that story line is very clear or entirely makes sense and that they actually got the people responsible. How can they ever truly arrest anyone ever again with a straight face? This show makes less and less sense and I am deeply disappointed with the writing.

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Apparently we are just supposed to believe what you are saying because you are privy to some inside knowledge? It is hard to have a mature conversation with someone when you do not know if they are blowing smoke in order to get responses on a message board. If you ARE privy to such inside knowledge, it would be more respectful to keep it to yourself instead or riling up people on a message board. So who really is the mature one? If you were truly concerned for a person in the cast because you knew something, you would remain silent instead of starting unsubstantiated rumors on a fan page.

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@gatorgal - I thought Mr. Murray looked great last season when folks were saying he was too thin. I read something about him saying he got into better shape by chasing his young child around the house - it happens! :-) I think he looks less thin this season due to wardrobe dept choices & possibly a little less activity - but still healthy! As for any other speculation: Funny how you can sometimes tell something's not right by just looking at someone's eyes...(the downside of big screen TVs and frequent past season repeats on cable...) Like I wrote earlier tonight, let's just keep sending positive thoughts & prayers... (PS: thanks for the mature conversation - it can get pretty wacky on comment boards!)

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I never said she did something wrong or that people should be angry at her. What I did say was that it wasn't as simple as, "Tony is mad at Ziva for sleeping with Adam". There was clearly more to it. To your second point, it's not just that Tony and the team just told her they care for her, they've spent years SHOWING it. What more do they have to do for Ziva to "feel it"? Obviously grieving people sometimes don't think clearly, but even before Eli died she rarely opened up and usually pushed them away.

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Once again, have you lost someone that you were extremely close too? When I lost my mother, I didn't know half the time if I was coming or going. I didn't make good decisions at times because my judgement was bogged down with the heaviness of grief. My best friend, who lost her daughter, had visions of driving her car into a wall or walking into traffic. Yea, you do and think crazy things in the midst of grief. Ziva was in the first days of losing her father. Perhaps you should be questioning the judgement of the man who took advantage of her vulnerable state (Adam) instead of calling Ziva the great betrayer of Tony. Someone telling you you are not alone does not mean you feel it. And your team or co-workers telling you that they are there for you does not take away the absolute desolation you feel when your whole family has been taken away from you, especially when each of them was taken in an extremely violent way. Who lost something here? Ziva did. Cut the girl some slack. Are you this understanding and empathetic with your friends in real life? (that is sarcasm) If so, I feel bad for your friends.

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It's clear that Ziva sleeping with Adam in and of itself isn't what bothered Tony. It doesn't matter how many one night stands Tony has had, or how many women he looks at because that's not the issue. What bothered Tony is what Ziva said about it. She said she felt alone. Despite everything Tony did in the aftermath of Eli's death to show her that he's right there for whatever she needed. Finding her in the Synagogue, letting her stay at his place, getting Schmeil(sp?) to stay with her and finally flat out telling her at the airport. Lets also not forget that the team has spent years SHOWING her they care.

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Ziva didn't sleep with some random guy. He was a longtime friend. It probably started out innocently. I hardly doubt "Adam let's sleep together" came out of her mouth. It's okay though because as usual if a woman sleeps with someone she's a h** but if a man does it, he's a player and gets accolades from friends. Tony slept with EJ the first time he met her. No matter what, when it comes to any type of situation with the two, Ziva is going to be rotten cabbage and Tony a bouquet of roses. For the record Tony doesn't follow Ziva around like a lost puppy. He does however, seem to be in heat a lot. That scene between them was sad but I didn't feel sorry for Tony. I'm sorry about the hitch but before the ep ended they seemed to be moving past it.




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