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@Stephie59

I have two brothers and my two best friends are men, and I can tell you that none of them ever looked at me as Tony looks at Ziva that is not my imagination, you can see it in every episode. The poor man risked his life for her several times; if that's not love then I don't know what is.

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I really hate it when people make fun of other people's opinions just because they are not their own. Even resorting to calling them stupid and crazy. Obviously not all Ziva detractors are like that. But for those who do, I wonder how they can somehow say stuff like that and not think that they sound stupid, crazy and/or hypocritical.

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Michael Weatherly stated in a recent interview that some of the writers were cheering and so excited about the TIVA scene in "Berlin". He said while they were dancing, some of the writers were throwing their hands in the air because they were so excited that TIVA was on the screen. So ya, it is not in the imaginations of the fans. Gary Glasberg stated (and I have said this before)that he pulled the trajectory on TIVA after seeing the obvious chemistry between Cote and Michael in the elevator scene of the first episode this season. So sorry folks, it is not a figment of the imagination.

Gatorgal

@Stephie59: Please don't insult us by telling us to grow up. It's all a matter of opinion. We disagree with yours. Get over it.

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@MCAL
I agree with you, I don't think Tiva is just in the heads of the fans. I think it is also in the heads of some of the cast and crew.

Also, I think both of these characters have had their fair share of moments not trusting each other or being completely honest with one another.

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I think Tony has feelings for Ziva. But I think that is not reciprocated by her. She doesn't respect Tony, never respected. He always treated her well, cared for her and she always snubbed him. I remember an episode that all dined at her house until the palmer and she doesn't invited him . He supported her when Eli died and she called McGee to help her find Bodnar. It's time for him to move on. she doesn't deserv him. She only sees him as a friend. Sorry for my english is not my native language.

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@Stephie59
Except I don't think its in the heads of the fans. Otherwise the word Tiva would never have been mentioned in interviews with the writers and directors (And even the cast).

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No to Tiva! Say it with me. No to Tiva! You can see how Ziva talks to Tony. And it's not like she doesn't like him, it's just that she sees him as her colleague and friend. I have male friends that I carry on like that with, but I'm certainly not in love with them or want to be with them. Ziva looks at other guys.Tony is always checking out other gals. And they do it in front of each other and neither looks hurt when it's done. Not like in the case of Kensi and Deeks when clearly Kensi was looking real jealous last ep. Not so with Tony and Ziva. People, please grow up!

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I haven't picked up on this Ziver thing as opposed to Ziva? Am I missing something? It sounded the same to me when Gibbs called her name.

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I will say it again. This Tiva relationship is in the heads of the fans. I don't even see that chemistry. I see Tony being hurt because he felt he had told her he was there for her, yet she said she felt alone and went with someone. It's not that he wanted her to have sex with him! He wanted her to know she was not alone. People are making this Tiva thing into something that isn't there. You can see it in Ziva's face that she sees Tony as a friend. Others are seeing it as more and I'm so fed up of this imaginary relationship that I feel will force the writers to bow to the fans and do it. I bet those same fans will complain soon after that they don't like the hookup, when it comes. Geesh!




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