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One thing can be said for the Tiva relationship: it really has people talking, and passionately too. I started watching for the crime solving, but became interested in the Tony/Ziva relationship. I can't wait to see what's going to happen with those two. I hope they end up together, but if they don't, I'll still enjoy the show.

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@bob - shallow much?

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@ guest - I never once "name called" a poster, so please quote me to show me where I did this, since your claim is that "you can't state your view without name calling". You, on the other hand say extremely demeaning things like "you crack me up" and smugly advise me that "Ziva is not real" Really? I guess anyone who doesn't see eye to eye with you about a fictional character MUST be delusional. That seems to be what your off topic personal attack implies. Please take your own rather self congratulatory advise.

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They could always do what House did and fire either Tony Or Ziva and then Hook them up like House did with Chase and that Woman

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@MCAL

Yea, I know it was long and wordy. I was trying to be as thorough as possible but I knew I would still get negative backlash no matter what I stated. I just said what I thought needed to be said. I need to move one now because I just don't understand how people can be this upset about a fictional character. I always appreciate your comments and you seem to be on the same page as I am in our views of how important this actually is to our real lives, so I guess I will reserve my comments for you and gatorgal and other reasonable people who aren't going to jump down my throat whenever I express myself! : )

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@Erin
state your view without resorting to name calling, character bashing and negativity. It's not real and you will be ok if TIVA does happen, I promise.

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@Erin
I stated my opinion. I was very calm in my opinion. It's you people who take this so seriously and so personally that crack me up. It is not real. Ziva is not real. Tony is not real. It is a fictional world. You visit it, you leave it, and your life goes on. The passion that all you hate Ziva with is ridiculous. I don't understand where that deep seated hatred for a fictional character comes from. And if you want to blame someone, blame the writers. They are actually real and have created Ziva. And just because you grow up privileged does not mean that your life is perfect and that your parents are wonderful people. You can take piano and dance lessons and if your parent's don't show up for your recitals, it still hurts whether you are poor or rich, privileged or not privileged. I stated my view and did not attack your views but you sure do want to sling the mud at me and anyone else who likes Ziva and a Tony and Ziva pairing. This is what irritates me. You can't state your view without resorting to name calling, character bashing and negativity. It's not real and you will be ok if TIVA does happen, I promise.

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@Guest
Holy cow! That is one long explanation!

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she's right. she could do a lot better than a old frat boy livin in the past. kinda sad really. he's even got the middle age spread goin on. ever wonder why they changed his clothes? he couldn't fit in the old silk suits if he tried.

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Oh c'mon - Ziva is "protecting Tony" with her dead weight comment? Really? I guess for some, anything she does will have a sad excuse and a ready defense. By the way - Ziva also mentioned having dancing and piano lessons as a child. Hardly prerequisites for assassin school. With her father a high ranking diplomat, she was likely raised in privilege and she stated that she chose to become a Mossad agent. Her mother's absence has never been addressed. Ziva was told by her immediate supervisor - Ben Giddon?? In think was his name, not to go to Somalia because he could not go with her, but she made the choice to go and single handedly take down the operation. For someone who seems to think she is the cream of the agenting world crop - she sure has made some disastrous calls. I don't mind a character who makes mistakes. I'm just tired of the Tony isn't good enough for her comments and the pity party that she is thrown when she has to deal with the repercussions of her actions.




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