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actually think the bit about the ecosystem being disrupted in lisbon's poker game may be happening here. lorelei comes in and suddenly it's not so ok for jane to operate on his own without lisbon. and it's not so ok for lisbon to tear him a new one like she always does. the relationship will be stretched to the breaking point. will they agree to disagree? i think it will turn out that he hasn't gone as rogue as the promos depict. seems like the only way they can be wearing cowboy hats a few episodes from now.

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@huisclothes,
We must see them the same way. I like your Annie Hall reference.

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@km can't believe you just wrote that. i just posted my last comment and yours comes so much from the same place. being someone who's attracted to brilliant difficult men (and who's good at dealing with them), i can relate to lisbon. the point on his head does fit into the hole in hers.

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@euterpe. i get what you're saying. you've seen the movie, annie hall? at the beginning he tells a joke -- a guy comes into a doctor's office and says, "doc, you gotta help me, my brother thinks he's chicken." the doctor says, "well, why don't have him locked up?" the guy replies, "i need the eggs." i think lisbon and jane need the eggs. there's something about each that the other one needs. something intangible. it's true, she can break the cycle and toss him. but i think she'd be cutting off her nose to spite her face. when he was gone for six months, she suffered terribly. he may be a jerk (not to me, but that's another story) but he's her jerk. she takes him back. she loves him when others hate him. she sees a side of him that she loves. and she likes and values a lot about him that's a pain in the ass. what's she gonna do? guide him away from doing bad stuff and stick with him. imeho (in my ever humbler opinion)

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@Euterpe,
I sometimes think that Lisbon minds less than the audience does. Remember the 100th and Jane cold read her as having a soft spot for badly behaved men. He said something about it being because they remind her of her father. I think that observation has some truth. She sees a good man within him and she sees a lost wounded person. Clearly after 10 years she thinks he is worth the grief he causes. The way they are connected is enough for her most of the time. But, that is just my 2¢.

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The Jane-Lisbon thing drags on for the same reason the RJ thing drags on. The creators want this series to run as long as possible, but the plot doesn't allow much leeway for that. The longest they can stretch out something like this is 6 seasons and that is really pushing it. So we get frustrated because in the normal order of things this should have been wrapped up in season 3 - or 4 at the latest.

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@ huisclothes,
The black. I have a chocolate brown pair from last year. I do like the periwinkle. Yes, shearling at the opening and underside of the tongue. I find they are warmer and have better arch support than my Chucks.

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(cont…) Jane is basically a child. He is always going to push the limits. If Lisbon keeps letting him get away with it, then he will never have any incentive to change, and will continue to be an obnoxious a**. Just as those children who are never disciplined will continue to be annoying little brats (as KM previously pointed out.) I don’t know what Lisbon is afraid of. Yes, Jane will initially challenge the ultimatum and leave, but he will always come back because he has nothing and no one else in his life and desperately needs the info. and connections afforded him by his involvement with the CBI. I don’t understand why she can’t see that she holds all the cards here.

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@huiscloths – In answer to your question on what constitutes Lisbon calling Jane on his crap…yes, it involves pointing out the unacceptable lines he has crossed and giving him an ultimatum. And again, yes, actually following through with the decision to walk away. She briefly did this in the opening of season two. When Minelli reassigned the Red John case to Bosco’s team, Jane immediately threw his temper tantrum and started packing up his toys to go home. Lisbon called him on it, he insulted the team, and she told him to hit the road. What happened…he came crawling back and begged her to let him back on the team because “I don’t have anywhere else to go.” Unfortunately, she quickly backed off her original requirements for his return and he was immediately back to his same old tricks.

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@km these are nice. what color did you get? do they have shearling?




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