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@Entwife - that's real. It's how I remember it. And that's what I mean...I can't watch two more years of Lisbon in that state, especially if they have Jane sleeping or obviously attracted to other woman

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I don't think it makes sense for Jane to get together with any woman other than Lisbon from this point on. If you believe he loves her, and most people here at least seem to think he does, and the reason he is holding back is because he doesn't want RJ to kill her (which I've already stated I think is unnecessary bc RJ already knows he loves her)then it would be irresponsible to get together with any woman. If RJ doesn't kill Lisbon knowing Jane loves her, but actual sex would trigger his murderous rage, then he should kill ANY woman Jane has sex with. It would be highly irresponsible to risk any woman's life if Jane thinks Red John views himself as Jane's personal chastity belt.

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Steam is coming out of my ears. I looked at a youtube clip of the motel scene from Crimson Hat to refresh my mind to @huisclothes questions. This clip shows Patrick and Lorelei starting up on the bed, then cuts away to upset Lisbon on the streets having just refused a ride from Van Pelt because she wanted to walk it off. Is that real, or did somebody splice that in for effect? If it's real, I never caught it before. Very upsetting.

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@huisclothes - I don't imagine any clothes ripping. She probably did most of the undressing. She initiated every single kiss in every episode she appeared in. Even as they laid on the bed, he seemed more interested in his nature show than he did in her. He seemed very passive and, I know some people disagree, he never seemed that into it. And I say that because he DID seem totally into it with Erica.

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Treasure trove of photos here, fan video birthday 2011 tribute to Simon. I'll have to go back and pause-step through it to catch them all. Lots I've never seen before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyYvAfEq4so&feature=fvwp

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2 points on Erica - I will be upset if they bring Erica back. Not because I didn't like the character- she was great and had fantastic chemistry with Jane (it was MUCH more intense than with Lorelei IMO.) I will be angry because it is completely unbelievable. She is an escaped fugitive. If she is smart, and she is, she will never set foot in the US again. If she does, she would be immediately arrested. And if Jane did meet her and not immediately arrest her himself, that would truly be the final straw and he would not be redeemable IMO. BTW, there was clearly mutual attraction, but she was not in love with him. Just because one person is attracted to another doesn't mean there is love involved. I saw attraction, and believe she liked him (the fun aspect HC mentioned.) That's it. Mainly she was playing him.

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cause his jacket was thrown over a chair. where were his socks? and pants? was she wearing his worn shirt or a fresh new one from the closet?

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@Entwife....got to rewatch that episode. When I was catching up on the earlier shows I know I didn't absorb it all.

Just a note....hope I dont get marked down for typos. Was looking at posts and saw my angst typo. Embarrassed :(

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In which case the room must have been the inside of a shredder for about 3 seconds. *snicker* I know. I'm cheating.

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I've never allowed my mind to go there, @huisclothes. In order to venture any further, I'll have to get a glass of wine and pretend it was really Lisbon.




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