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NCIS Round Table: "Prime Suspect"

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Our NCIS review broke down "Prime Suspect," this week's episode, in detail.

Now, TV Fanatic staff members Steve Marsi, Douglas Wolfe and Eric Hochberger have assembled for our weekly Round Table Q&A discussion of various events and topics from this installment.

Join in as we analyze another multi-layered hour of TV's #1 show!

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1. Describe this episode in one word (or two, or three, or four).

Steve: An enjoyable, if unexceptional hour.

Doug: A lighter change of pace.

Eric: Old-school whodunit caper.

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2. Favorite quotes or scenes from "Prime Suspect"?

Steve: Gibbs at the barber shop talking with his old friend. I love any insight into how the man spends his time, even if it's just a few quick scenes of Haircut Tuesday. Also when he called his dad.

Doug: I enjoyed watching Dorneget and Tony fighting it out while Melissa watched them, interpreting their spat as a lover's quarrel. That was fun.

Eric: Vance asking Abby to help with his daughter. It's about time. Also some more subtle moments like Tim tripping over himself to tell people Abby's friend is NOT her boyfriend.

3. What was your biggest problem, if any, with the episode?

Steve: The case and some of the details therein were definitely a bit of a stretch, but that's hardly cause for alarm as any show has to be granted some element of artistic license. I enjoyed it overall.

Doug: Most TV crime shows require a suspension of disbelief, which the audience is happy to provide. I just could not get my head around the notion of the reporter actually murdering anyone (in this case, three) in order to advance his career, unless he's a psychopath. It's understood that psychopaths would have no compunction against doing so, but then again - aren't most of them fairly organized and intelligent? This just did not make sense. I couldn't buy it.

Eric: I agree with Doug. While it made for nice misdirection, there's no way that reporter was so desperate to revive his career that he'd start KILLING people, grotesquely and systematically at that. Really though it's all about the characters and we've had so many great moments this season to make up for any holes like that.

4. Did Gibbs do the right thing in helping his friend?

Steve: Can you even answer that? It was pretty much vintage Gibbs. He stands by his convictions, even if it means breaking the rules. It's not always admirable (though often it is), and it usually gets him in trouble, but that maverick streak is one of the many reasons he's such a beloved character - and leader.

Doug: Morally, he did the right thing. Legally? That seems a little grey. Wouldn't he have been legally obliged to hand over any information to local police? Such as the fact that the barber's son was left-handed - in addition to being a dead-ringer for the artist's sketch? I honestly don't know.

Eric: I understand why he tried to conduct his own shadow investigation, but once he began to suspect his guy was in fact the killer, impeding Metro's case was a bit shady. Just Gibbs being Gibbs, though.

5. Who was the NCIS team MVP of the week?

Steve: Dorneget, for putting up with Tony, and Vance, for pranking Tony. Sorry Tony.

Doug: This one goes to Vance: the way he handled his irritation with worry-wart Abby by asking for her help with his daughter, effectively resolving two issues at the same time. And for pranking Tony. I hope we continue to see him evolving like this: it makes him more accessible and likeable.

Eric: Leroy Jethro. If you're friends with that guy, he's always got your back.

6. Tony's antics in the Bahamas: Funny or over-the-top?

Steve: I love Michael Weatherly at times like this, but hope it doesn't become overdone, because he's capable of so much more. If it's balanced out by some Tony episodes with more depth later, I'm okay with it.

Doug: Vintage Tony for the most part: he was in his element, being on a beach and surrounded by women. Plus, he thought he had his very own probie servant in Dorneget. His misinterpretation of Melissa's interest in him funny but... the shtick is getting to be too formulaic.

Eric: Funny. I know people may have gripes but I laughed!

7. Is Ziva off her game?

Steve: They did lead you to believe that, didn't they? I'm guessing the various hints at that will manifest themselves in the big arc to conclude the season. Ziva's drama hasn't unfolded quickly thus far because they're setting the stage - at least that's my prediction. Can't wait to see how it plays out.

Doug: I can't decide this one. It could be that the writers forgot about character continuity in allowing the detective to read information from her desk: the normal Ziva would have not allowed that mistake. Or it could be a setup for the fact that she really is off of her game. I haven't seen her make any other overt mistakes, so I'd have to say "no" at this point. (Now watch: the next episode will feature Gibbs calling her out on that goof. Or worse: Tony.)

Eric: Maybe, but if so, isn't that to be expected as normal, human behavior?

What's your take on these issues of the week on NCIS? Discuss below!

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" People censure Tony because the show does. They ignore Ziva's many failings and rather unpleasant character traits because the show does, too." I think you make an excellent point there, Katya. I can't tell you the amount of comments I've seen on Facebook saying that Tony's useless and Ziva should be Gibbs 2IC. But in reality Tony always follows orders and gets the job done. And if he DOES ever make a mistake the guilt sits firmly on his shoulders and he's looking to blame no one but himself. So is Ziva's mistake foreshadowing? Well, it's hard to tell if you look at what the show has shown us in the past. It wouldn't be uncommon for her to have made a mistake and Gibbs to say nothing. What else has the show shown us? That every male to enter the squad room has to stop by Ziva's desk and admire her. So for this detective to stop by and do the same, even though in this case he's looking for information on the suspect, who's Ziva to think any differently. Plus I'd also believe that Ziva was off her game just because she was jealous Tony was sent on a special assignment and she wasn't. Flirting with girls in bikins, no less. They've shown us before that Ziva loses focus under those circumstances. Or maybe the show IS trying to show us that Ziva is off her game this time. LOL

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Compare and contrast with the amount of censure Tony gets when he's immature, screws up, or, God forbid, he tries to be serious instead of the 'class clown'. People censure Tony because the show does. They ignore Ziva's many failings and rather unpleasant character traits because the show does, too. I could have listed other examples of her screwups but I think 4 posts on the subject is enough.

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Later, she admits she lied to Gibbs about shooting Ari and that she had been under orders to gain Gibbs's trust from the start. Somehow, this still isn't enough for Gibbs to throw her off the team. Would Gibbs keep her on the team? No. No sane, sensible leader would after Jeopardy, let alone Aliyah. But this is TV-Land and Ms De Pablo is under contract, so on the team she remains, straining all credulity. What bothers me is that the show refuses to acknowledge her flaws and failings - she's always a poor, tragic and yet - in a classic case of the show wanting to have its cake and eat it - also kickass victim, and yet she screws up repeatedly. But we shouldn't collude with them by feigning astonishment that the perfect Ziva David should screw up in any way such as the reviewers did here. She's *always* screwing up. The reason people don't notice is that the show refuses to comment on it. Compare and contrast with the amount of censure Tony gets when he's immature, screws up, or, God forbid, he tries to be serious instead of the 'class clown'. People censure Tony because the show does. They ignore Ziva's many failings and rather unpleasant character traits because the show does, too.

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Continued: @Suncatcher She should have been off the team right there and then. Moving on to Witch-Hunt. I actually like her in this one because she screws up by letting the women get away out of the window, and Gibbs DOES punish her, but she's humble about it and willing to learn. If ONLY that had been the pattern. Sadly it isn't. There's the episode (Dead Reflection, I think) where she bought the flirt and got locked in the stairwell and the bad guy went and killed the accountant. When she goes undercover with Tony's dad in Broken Arrow, she stands out like a sore thumb, gets made by the bad guys and doesn't even realise it and then ignores Tony's orders to get his father out until she finds out the order came from Gibbs. Then there is the huge clusterf*** that is Aliyah and her incredibly bad choices there. A US Agent died because she refused to believe that Rivken had lost the plot. Later, she admits she lied to Gibbs about shooting Ari and that she had been under orders to gain Gibbs's trust from the start. Somehow, this still isn't enough for Gibbs to throw her off the team. Would Gibbs keep her on the team? No. No sane, sensible leader would after Jeopardy, let alone Aliyah. But this is TV-Land and Ms De Pablo is under contract, so on the team she remains, straining all credulity. What bothers me is that the show refuses to acknowledge her flaws and failings - she's always a poor, tragic and yet - in a classic case of the show wanting to have its cake and eat it - also kickass victim, and yet she screws up repeatedly. But we shouldn't collude with them by feigning astonishment that the perfect Ziva David should screw up in any way such as the reviewers did here. She's *always* screwing up. The reason people don't notice is that the show refuses to comment on it. Compare and contrast with the amount of censure Tony gets when he's immature, screws up, or, God forbid, he tries to be serious instead of the 'class clown'. People censure Tony because the show does. They ignore Ziva's many failings and rather unpleasant character traits because the show does, too. Simples.

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@Suncatcher Why yes I can, thank you for asking. Where to start? There are so many. I'm sure others can chime in too. Kate died when Ziva went against Eli's orders and refused to believe Ari had turned bad. This is a theme with Ziva - she repeatedly disobeys orders because she thinks she knows best and yet has the cheek to upbraid Tony for not being able to follow orders in 'Dagger'. Dagger, by the way, is another example of her screwing up when she goes nuts despite Gibbs's order to stand down. Then there's Jeopardy where she actually assaults and kills someone in custody because he's annoying her. His pre-existing condition does not lessen the blame - there can be no excuses for her jabbing him in the throat when he was cuffed. He'd have been alive if she hadn't done it - and what was her punishment? She's benched for the case and makes a big fuss about it. She kills someone who is handcuffed and in their custody and gets a minor slap on the wrist. She should have been off the team right there and then. Moving on to Witch-Hunt. I actually like her in this one because she screws up by letting the women get away out of the window, and Gibbs DOES punish her, but she's humble about it and willing to learn. If ONLY that had been the pattern. Sadly it isn't. There's the episode (Dead Reflection, I think) where she bought the flirt and got locked in the stairwell and the bad guy went and killed the accountant. No one died when she went undercover with Tony's dad in Broken Arrow, but she stood out like a sore thumb, was made by the bad guys and didn't even realise it and then ignored Tony's orders to get his father out until she knew the order came from Gibbs. Then there is the huge clusterf*** that is Aliyah and her incredibly bad choices there. A US Agent died because she refused to believe that Rivken had lost the plot. Later, she admits she lied to Gibbs about shooting Ari and that she had been under orders to gain Gibbs's trust from the start. Somehow, this still isn't enough for Gibbs to throw her off the team. Would Gibbs keep her on the team? No. No sane, sensible leader would after Jeopardy, let alone Aliyah. But this is TV-Land and Ms De Pablo is under contract, so on the team she remains, straining all credulity. What bothers me is that the show refuses to acknowledge her flaws and failings - she's always a poor, tragic and yet - in a classic case of the show wanting to have its cake and eat it - also kickass victim, and yet she screws up repeatedly. But we shouldn't collude with them by feigning astonishment that the perfect Ziva David should screw up in any way such as the reviewers did here. She's *always* screwing up. The reason people don't notice is that the show refuses to comment on it. Compare and contrast with the amount of censure Tony gets when he's immature, screws up, or, God forbid, he tries to be serious instead of the 'class clown'. People censure Tony because the show does. They ignore Ziva's many failings and rather unpleasant character traits because the show does, too.

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@Michael
You can defend your favorite character all that you want without attacking others and posting offensive comments.

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I do hear that a dark serct will come out about one of the character and it will make everyone look at him different I bet its Mcgee and his car accident I wonder if he got his mother kill

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WOW what with the name calling so I can't defend my favroite character

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Hi friends I will be back soon @michael don't be vulger

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@ Michael
you and your disgusting, unreasonable rants and comments. You are a sad, little human being with no regard for other people and I feel bad for you. People have tried to be friendly and reasonable with you but you don't want that, you want negativity and I, for one, am no longer going to fill this need in you. Good luck in life.

NCIS Season 10 Episode 17 Quotes

Tony: Couldn't help noticing you're sitting here all alone. I thought maybe you'd want some company?
Melissa: Sure. Your partner won't mind?
Tony: Partner?
Melissa: I assumed you two are a couple. Just... your shirt. So...pink.

Ramsey: Looks like we got a lot of evidence to get through, huh?
Abby: Yeah.
Both: All-nighter!

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