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I personally, do not believe in this so called TIVA thing, and if TPTB do deceided to put them together then I pretty sure NCIS sad to would be over.

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And everyone is entitled to their own opinions, just don't be a jerk to other people's opinions.

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@Everybody (And I'm guilty of this sometimes too)
In the immortal words of Rodney King, "Can't we all just get along?"
I mean seriously. I can't read comments without people say Ziva sucks or Ziva rules or Tony's being written badly or Tony is just fine and so on and so forth. What do they have to do with this episode? Everyone and I mean everyone needs to realize that the writers aren't going to change the way they are writing and that this is a consistantly excellent show that balances mystery, comedy and drama. And that it has more viewers now than it ever did. Season 10 is the best season ever as proven using actual data and as long as that remains true, the show will continue to go in the direction. You can like or dislike a character just fine, but you have to realize that all the characters are equally likable and dislikable. Every character is equally imperfect, but hey that's what it means to be human.

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So, if we want to make these characters accountable for their actions then we should start at the top. Gibbs, Vance and Abby all should have been fired at the end of season 7 for suppressing evidence and hiding the report that clearly showed that Gibbs had assassinated the man who killed his wife and daughter. I don't believe any action was taken against any of them for that offence. There was also the episode where Gibbs switched the evidence that would have proven that a soldier had a kidney transplant. Have any of the characters really been held accountable for their actions? Not really. It is called dramatic license. The writers exaggerate everything and they get the response they want. What is that? That response is the fans passionately defending their favorite characters, arguing their points with one another on fan pages and continually coming back for more because we want to know what is going to happen next. I for one am enjoying the ride very much.

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I don't think anyone wants to censor anyone. I think we just want to talk about the show, not just one character faults or otherwise, of said show. Hardly 'bullying' really.

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First of all reading all this Ziva bashing is giving me a headache. As fans of NCIS I hope you realize that it's not the actors or acresses who write the episode it's the script writer, the actor or actress is just projecting what is writing on paper on to screen, so if you do not like the fact the Ziva has broken "rules" "orders" tell the writers do not attack the actor or actress.
I loved "Seek" I loved "Dex" and I throughly enjoyed the Tony and Tim scenes. I was glad that Gibbs took Tim overseas.
Really, looking forward to next week.

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It's hard to know where to start. First you proclaim yourselves the "real fans", because you love every character. Bully for you! You attempt to mask your obvious intolerance for different points of view by attacking REAL PEOPLE in a most self righteous manner and insultingly implore us to stop posting our views because you find them so repetitive and boring. Yet you write post after post congratulating yourselves on your true fan status and suggesting that us non Ziva lovers stop watching because our dissatisfaction squicks your delicate fan sensibilities. You spend more time defending your desire to censor posters and insulting them, than talking about the show. Your need to censor who should post and what they should post about, indicate a strong sense of entitlement and intolerance for views other than your own. This is a discussion forum about the show. I see your tactics to limit other peoples views as nothing more than bullying .

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The Rpeblican party? I've never heard of that sort of party, are there drinks? ;) Do I get a 'The Tiva Shipper' badge when I arrive? (We'll ignore the fact I've explained that I'm not quite a few times shall we?) Oh and Matt/Michael, every post you make makes it more obvious you're the same person by the way. Most reasonable people don't hate anyone on T.V shows, due to the whole 'its not real' thing. Maybe you should just find another show if this one causes you so much upset? Then you will be happy, and the rest of us can go on enjoying the show we really like just the way it is. Everyone's a winner!

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@Matt
Obviously you did not read the definition of what trolling is. And I have explained why I accused them of trolling. They fit the definition. I do not bash other characters and see that you overlooked my explanation where I said that. Perhaps my words were too big for you to understand. I didn't say they didn't have a right to their opinion nor did I tell them they were wrong. I stated that they need to stop filling these pages with the same diatribe over and over and to try and state a new idea. I didn't ask them to change their old ideas but perhaps express others so we don't have to continue to read the same things over and over again.

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@guest
I was talking about you and the Tiva shipper, you guys are a lot like the Rpeblican party if someone does not share your views and your opinnion their idiots or troll or their not a real fan if they hate Ziva but its okay to hate EJ or any other character just not Ziva.




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