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What ticks me off about the whole tiva thing, aside from the fact that these two actors have zero chemistry with each other, is that they've replaced all of Tony's drama with moments with Ziva. The writers still give her, her own stories, but it seems like Tony is only allowed to be the shows idiot or Ziva's admiring accessory. Sucks to be a Tony fan if your not a Ziva fan, because he seems to be chained to her in every episode if he's allowed a dramatic moment.

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Can we have a show were there is not at least some underlying hint of Tiva? There are some people who don't want to see it and are sick of the powers that be pushing it so much! PS Don't like McAbby either!

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First, Gibbs was just helping the director lie to himself. Buying life insurance is a perfectly valid response to worries about your spouse's death; creating separate bank accounts and so on is not. Joint accounts do not disappear or get locked when one of the spouses dies. I don't see how the wife's actions can be interpreted as anything but preparation for divorce or separation.

Second, while it's credible that a traumatized man like the CO would take out his anger and grief on others, it's not credible that the whole unit would let their CO stab them repeatedly. A three-inch-deep wound?! I realize that a large part of military training is about instilling unquestioning obedience to authority and destroying individual initiative, but I don't think it's usually THAT effective.

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@Anna Oh, I don't know....it may not have been a "turning point", but they seemed to have a pretty good time babysitting Vance's kids. They were having a good time -- together. Rates as a nice Tiva moment.

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I thought that the episode was largely boring. Not due to RC's performance. He was fine. It was just not very well written. The case story was ridiculous. Why on earth would the director need two agents to watch his children who pretty much look old enough to be mostly okay by themselves? Well of course to shoehorn in a "tiva" moment. And why oh why does CBS and every reviewer sucking up to tptb, have to remind us each week what a fabulous actress CdP is? Maybe because it's not particularly obvious if they don't. She has two facial expressions that she uses for her four avallable emotions - her sad or inquisitive look (they are identical) and her angry or annoyed look which look exactly alike. They've all but ruined Tony by making him the show's permanent fool, in order to accentuate how superior Ziva is. This show has turned into the CdP show. What a waste of the talent of MW especially, and a sad shame for fans who don't adore the posing princess.

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really enjoyed the Vance storyline and was very glad that they didn't go with the divorce secret storyline for Jackie.
Even better part was there being nothing to the supposed 'turning point' spoiler put out to the tiva fans a while back.

but honestly at some point ziva really needs to face the music for all the blood on her hands.

As far as any incorrect details or slow moving storylines or even Tony stuck in clown mode, blame the writer. NMM isn't known for stellar eps. She hits them every so often but misses more often.

Authorsue

I thought the episode was great. I feel sorry for Vance, he's lost. I can identify with that situation. Still, Tony and Ziva are the ones that make us smile and feel good. I'm already waiting for the next episode. Sigh

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Personally, I thought the Vance story in this episode was more interesting than the crime story. To the Vance haters, I'm curious, exactly what are you expecting? Anyone who climbs to the top of the ladder does so for a reason. They usually have unsavory character traits and a storied history. I'm also quite sure that he feels plenty of guilt for his wife's death. If they bring in someone else to be a new director, I'm sure that person will also have many traits that the average viewer won't like.

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Tony stepped up in this episode...big-time...for Ziva. He overcame his kid-induced panic and actually managed to get Vance's kids AND Ziva laughing. Then, as they were preparing to leave, the clown was put away and protective Tony came out. Ziva was glowing as she laughed at Tony's antics with the kids and, Despite the uncomfortable moment with Vance, you could tell Tony had struck all the right notes with her and she appreciated the support he showed for the kids and for herself. I think, child issues aside, Ziva may finally be seeing Tony as a man she could possibly have a family with.

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@John
Worst show ever? I think those 20+ million viewers of five straight episodes would like to have a word with you.




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