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I can see some of the holes in my theory and I couldn't see Lorelei with Jane's father either! But here is what I think does not exclude it. T. Carter talked about plastic surgery and how he was able to blend in to society. This is also where I believe Brett Stiles can be excluded. Also Jane's father stalked a dying mark all the way to the hospital.What if Jane's father is someone we have seen in the series with a new face? If Jane is a chip off the ole block, why wouldn't his father have the same or above intelligence level? What if this person works in the CBI, it would explain how they changed the camera's and can access the computer network.

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i propose as we wind down the work we'd done on red corvette and get ready for what we believe will be a strong and illuminating episode. we've spent two weeks spectating on what will happen. just thought it might be fun if any of your prognosis about what would happened wound up in the episode you', you write a comment called "I CALLED IT, citing the orginal comment and how you think that comment has been integrated in the episode. MIGHT BE FUN. FEEL FREE TO PULL IN COMMENTS YOU MADE ON PRIOR EPISODES. WHATYA SAYY???

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@euterpe ooh. i like that wedding ring thing. so good. that's a perfect thing to plant and then have pop up again. it would be chilling in a movie to see it rather innocently in the first act and suddenly have it take on horrible implications at the end of act two.
ok, i'll digress. i found patrick saying that in fugue in red really distasteful. one, because it's distasteful. two because it's stupid -- it would make women stay away. three, because why the hell (i keep asking this) would this man have any trouble attracting women? the guy's one of the reigning beauties of our time. it bugged me.
also bugged me that he gave that woman who signed him out of the hospital a diamond bracelet. had they slept together? did he do it to get her to sleep with him? really seemed like a loser. but to your point, so did jane senior.

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@huisclothes - I concur with your opinion on Jane's father. I never got the impression that he was a loving father or husband. All he cared about was money and viewed his son as a mealticket. As for still wearing the ring... in 'Fugue in Red' Jane told Lisbon there was no better way to earn a woman's trust that to wear a wedding ring. Maybe that little pearl of wisdom he learned from Daddy Dearest.

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@watcher keep forgetting to mention this but your comment about red john offering a dental plan was really funny.

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@rationalgal. i watched throwing fire again pretty recently. i got the feeling that jane's father was mostly happy to have fathered a goldmine and interested in keeping him under his thumb as long as possible. he was part stage parent, part jailer. i didn't pick up that he missed his wife but he did wear the ring. mostly he spent his time mocking patrick for anything that expressed his innate goodness. (supports lisbon saying "that's not him" in fugue in red.) patrick was his father's mark. i know someone brought up that his striped pants might allude to prison garb. actually carnival barkers traditionally wore striped pants -- see billy bigelow in the musical, carousel, to see the 19th century jane senior. also, a page or two back i did wonder if, considering the time frame, the jane boys' carnival set up near the red barn. so i agree with your hmmmm.

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Rationalgal I have to disagree with you about Stiles. He could not get me to jump in the sack with him. It would take more then brainwashing to get me to do that. I can't see Lorelei jumping in the sack with stiles and then with Jane! They are way to different!

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bonaduz,I was like you when I found this site. I couldn't believe there were people out there that liked the show as much as I did. I was drawn to the mystery of the Red John storyline,the comedy and then the characters. I love the big discussions we get into. They are a lot of fun! I have never watched another show that made me think this much. Most shows just spoon feed you they what they want you to know. This show makes you earn the right to be a member. I mean devoted viewer! Wait! What? I hope I'm not becoming a Red John recruit unknowingly! Just kidding! I think a lot of viewers want their answers right away, like fast food. I think everyone in here likes the slow methodical twists and turns of a good mystery. I think I might have to go to series counseling when this is done!

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I love to try to solve mysteries and The Mentalist has given me more to work with than I know what to do with. It's not just the characters but the underlying philosophies that inform their actions. Different for all of them and messes up every theory one way or another. Great writing! Great story concept! Eventally one theory has to take in all of the factors. No doubt the piece of the puzzle that will do that hasn't been offered yet. Many suspects can be eliminated, tho they may play a role. It has to be someone with the qualifications. That leaves out, for example, the CBI parking lot attendant. Also Jane's father, tho he may be indirectly involved. I think a lot of people are involved in some way, but who is the REAL Red John? So far, Stiles fits the qualifications. That's as far as I can go.

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GREAT stuff from all of you. I'm really glad I found this site! huisclothes, b&w&r, rationalgal, watcher, anitraward1 and everybody else has put so mutch thought and time into this show, it's incredible! Every time I log in, I learn something new and exciting about the characters - specially Lorelei at the moment. Can't wait for the rest of the season! I also love to read how people think different, because everybody has a different background and therefore different believes and a different "rucksack" to carry! Awsome! I'm also positively surprised, that everybody's comment is appreciatet, nobody talks down to another person or makes remarks about spelling/grammar mistakes and that questions from us "beginners" are answerd seriously - thanks! I feel right at home with this crazy (in a fun way) bunch here! Anywhere else (in my real life) I can't even mention the Mentalist anymore!(rolling eyes, sighs, weird looks)lol! So - keep it coming, please! :-)




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