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I have to say, anitraward1, that you said your RJ theory would explain what would look like the homoerotic dynamic I was talking about, and it does. We don't have much to go on with Jane's dad, but with what we do have I just don't think he has the persistence or focus or the intellectual wherewithal to pull of the Red John dynasty. But it adds another very interesting set of clues to watch for!

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Continued-a father may even engage a son in a little man/women talk or behavior. Father's sometimes do this with their sons! Entwife your homoerotic traits sound like something a father might do with a son. A psychotic father but still a father!

I also think that contained in all of our posts we may have already found the answer. I got my theory from reading all the posts! With that said, I submitt to you this..... Take all your suspects and see if they have Jane's traits. You can not be biased! Hidden within your MENTALIST memory palace is the answer!

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Sorry. My last was in response to anitraward1.

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Continued-The parent continues to try and mend fences but does not trust the child and ask that the child show some type of behavior that would show he's trustworthy again and worthy of returning to a fold. A fold that doesn't trust outsiders. Sometimes parents make the mistake of thinking they have been to harsh and will offer gifts to even their most wayward children. The parent will let their child know from time to time that they are even doing a good job. They will also step in and save them when they are having problems they can not resolve themselves. They will even tell they their old friends said high when they see them and give them a little parental pat when they leave. And you know parents they can't help but to try and impart their wisdom when ever they can. Purhaps a enlighten poem! Easy to remember.

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Your theory does explain the passion and interest that RJ showers on Jane. I just don't think Dad is smart enough or skillful enough to pull off a wide-ranging powerful dynasty that RJ seems to have created.

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@huisclothes: Yeah the anniversary and Lisbon pondering her future are linked, the more this is about Lisbon pondering her future, the worse it is for us. Shows don't have characters ask these types of questions when the show is running on all cylinders, it's usually the opposite and signals such. But we'll see. Anyway to finish my other thought, we still don't have one big question answered and unfortunately I don't think we'll ever get a good answer: Where was RJ and that limo going to take Jane? Why, where, what, how, anything? What was the plan? I can't imagine it was to kill Jane, he's far too valuable for RJ, but they had already punished him with wanting to cut off his fingers, what was going to happen? I feel like we should be able to read something into this, but what?

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Good catch, huisclothes, I bet Lisbon's 10th anniversary is exactly why she reevaluates her place in CBI. Wonder if it makes her take a good look at Patrick? In the promo, it shows the team playing a joke on her for her 10th.

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Continued-Now an angry psychotic parent may punish their arrogent wayward child, oh, by, lets say murdering the childs whole family. And as parents do, after enough punishment may reach out to the child hoping to mend some fences. The child still being arrogent, angry and wayward may want to be a little spiteful towards the parent. Possily acting out or maybe even trying to make the parent believe they have changed when they really haven't. Many children behave this way! Now since the parent knows they won't ever be friends, but still loving their child, they monitor their child from afar. Always leting the child know they are not far way.

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But why did RJ get rid of him? Just a situational thing, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time? I don't buy that. Was it perhaps because Wainwright didn't really value Jane and thought his antics outweighed what he contributed so he punished him for that(for those who think RJ is attracted to Jane this might not be unreasonable)? I see that as unlikely. To me, it came down to this, Wainwright interferred with Jane's life, had him fired, basically that's what set up his ruse, and most of all tried to take over the Red John case and really delve into it. As we Saw in season 2 with Bosco and Rebecca's rampage, that's not something RJ tolerates. The case, it has to be in Jane's hand, you have to give him the position and opportunity to do his thing, that's what amuses RJ, that's what makes this game fun for him. He has to be the one seeking RJ and there can't be any limits on his seeking.

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Wow, anitraward1, what a head spin your theory is. I don't know about the visualize angle, but I can sure see the resentment angle for Jane's father. Patrick was the whole show, the cash cow for Dad. In that way Dad treated Patrick like a mark, not an insider, used him, took his money, gave Patrick pocket change and headed out to Loserville. I'd be really curious to see what ever happened to the guy. Hard to say if he has fostered a resentment and hate for his son all these years. Seems too disorganized and weak to hold a course. But wouldn't that be the surprise attack of the season!

b&w&r, I agree with you that even if the next episode doesn't obviously further the RJ plot, there will be small but important tidbits dropped. I do have to say I'm ready for more than breadcrumbs for a change!




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