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Also just a quick thing which I talked about earlier, the show hasn't shown much in terms of bringing back old characters to play featured roles(LaRoche and Minelli were brought back this year but really they were just cameos). If this trend keeps up, and I'm guessing it does, then that has to influence who your Red John suspects are. They just haven't brought back characters from years past to play major roles and I highly doubt they'd have someone such as Mashburn being RJ without him being in the show for 3 years. It's an issue of just being able to negotiate contracts with these actors to come back also. So keep that in mind with these RJ theories, old characters, unless they come back its going to be hard for them to be RJ. The one character who keeps coming back though for years? Brent Stiles. And yes, he raises lots of suspicion, there's no doubt he's part of the RJ storyline.

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@huisclothes: Yes, this was a pretty blatant problem with the plot. Maybe I'm missing something, I'd have to watch the episode with Minelli closer to really tell, but this is also something I wondered. You needed two lists, why? Did Minelli not come through? That would have been fine but there was no word about that and he kind of disappeared? Perhaps they anticipated having Minelli back later in the season but couldn't negotiate anything with him. What's weird is that as soon as Jane got this list we never saw any reaction from him, we never saw him act on it, it was just oh i have it now. That only adds to my conspiracy theory that the show wanted to bring on Minelli later in the year but couldn't so they just tried to bury that part of the storyline. Again, a conspiracy and it's not true, but something went wrong with that part of the story and it wasn't intentional.

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and apparently Bruno said that we could be disappointed when we find out who he is, which is a weird thing to say somehow.

Is it one of the team? I really don't think so, they all look close to each other and it would be disappointing if it were, cos all this time you've thought aw they are a great team blabla.. so no not possible

now yes Minelli why not, he looks sweet but we know it means nothing. betram.. laroche is weird but prob not him. I had the same thought about the list, have to rewatch it to see what happened there, there must be an explanation.

maybe we saw RJ in an episode and he was like someone we cant remember, someone unimportant.I cant wait for the next ep esp because it's a rj one!

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ahah I love reading your speculations!

Thanks for your answers, I come a bit late to read it but anyway..
I'm re watching the series from the first episode, I'm now on ep 4 of season 2. I should have taken notes though.

But what is sure to me is that Jane is deffo not RJ, can't be, for many reasons. in the finale of S1 Rosalind describes him and it can't be jane according to how he looks for starters and for so many things it couldn't be him, and thank god cos it would be BS if it was.

now wether it's a woman or a man, good question and if it's one man or a team.

I have often wondered about his mum too, we don't know anything about her, although we know nothing about VP and Cho either but maybe they keep it for later episodes.

I can't see his dad doing this either although it could make sense. It's probably a random thing at first, like because he mocked rj on tv, rj got revenge or it could be an old client he conned and stole money from who wants to get revenge.

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waywardone, my sense of deduction is about as apt as yours. I gave up guessing whodunit a long time ago because I can see how everybody can be "it." Now, have you considered a disposable guy, a "red shirt" as Red John, a la Star Trek?

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@waywardone bertram, minelli and la roche as rj suspects. as far as we know, red john has chalked up three mistresses and a rape. bertram, i guess is young enough to pull that off. for minelli or laroche, i don't think such rigorous activity would be compatible with life. that's why i ruled out brett stiles. he's seventy. not happening. but hey, there is viagra. and if most of the writers are male, well, they tend to have delusions of grandeur in that area.

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@waywardone re: the list of la roche. no, you didn't miss anything. i've been wondering what happened there - a real disconnect especially since they made the list a big plot point. minelli got back his mojo and came through for patrick. they hugged. minelli got a date. then they ignore it and turns out, minelli may have stopped drinking for naught.

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@anitra ward maybe mrs. jane was shriveled and dead and sitting in a wheelchair inside the trailer like norman bate's mom.

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hi Huisclothes. I have no idea who rj is. I suspect Minelli, Bertram, or Larouche. I suspect Larouche because ever since he starred with Simon in "Love from Ground Zero", every copy of that movie has disappeared from the face of the earth. It would be really interesting if it turned out to be Jonny Lee Miller from "Elementary" since he stole the role of eccentric sleuth and the Thurs. night time slot from Simon after being his partner in "Smith".

Of course I'm just having a bit of fun. But I could never figure out why Patrick got Larouch's list twice--once from Minelli and once from Larouche himself. Were the lists the same? Maybe I missed something.

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Continued-we know how Jane's wife died. Was Jane's mother the first Red John victim killed by Jane's father. OK! THERE, NOW I SAID IT! THE CAT WAS MOVING AROUND IN THE BAG! SO I JUST LET HIM OUT!




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