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Huck: He took my life and then he put me in a box and almost took it again. I will get us the name. Olivia: Huck-- Huck: My world, my rules.
January 18th, 2013 1:26 PM
here's my problem with Edison, he let himself in her house twice when it was clear last week she dumped his behind. Maybe that gave me bad vibes because I actually had an experience when my mom's ex used his key to come in our house to vandalize it so me seeing her pretty much coming into her crib unannounced really rub me the wrong way. I also for one minute don't believe Edison is as upstanding as he tries to make himself out to be.
Also on the rigging thing, Hollis stated he was going to do it with or without consent. The last meeting when they agree to it he was pretty much doing it so they would be in his debt and has people to just pin it on as out of the 5 of them he would be least suspect.
Rank: Regular Character
January 18th, 2013 1:09 PM
@Marcus. She's flawed. She's human. I can write an essay on why I like Olivia Pope. I can go dissect the sexist response some viewers have in response to her character because I guarantee you a great deal of the naysayers wouldn't detest her or many of her actions so much if she were a man. Case in point being the disdain you exhibit over Olivia's infidelity but no mention of the same disdain for the married man cheating on his wife (who has also cheated on him because the irony of the sanctity of marriage being crapped on is that the Grant marriage is a orchestrated business deal more then anything) . I could discuss the realistic portrayal of a strong woman who is also vulnerable and successfully manages to break free of some of the stereotypes women and African Americans are pigeon holed into. But it'll all come down to her being flawed and human. And no matter what anyone says your mind won't be changed so why bother asking? :)
January 18th, 2013 12:23 PM
I really REALLY start to despise Olivias character. As if being a homewrecker issnt bad enough she also goes along with treason and rigging an election ? Only because she cant keep it in her pants over a guy ? For someone who ats so righteous her actions are anything but. Shes the biggest hypocrite i have ssen on TV in a long time. Who did annoit her GOD ? And all of her actual crimes are justified because Fitz is such a good man ? As if there arent any other good men out there who might just be faithful to their wifes.
I would like to know from people who love Olivias character just what it is that makes her so olveable ? That she actually struggles before making the most hideous decisions like rigging an election , cheating with a married man, lying to just about everyone especially to people have her back no matter what ( remember how she destroyed Davis and his relationship and he is actually a stand up good guy ).
Rank: Regular Character
January 18th, 2013 11:43 AM
I found the angst Olivia went through in this episode flashbacks and present day fascinating. It's so true that she does these things, fixes problems, and takes part in this stuff and it is like she's sacrificing little pieces of herself. The angst was long overdue because she always has to be so strong. I love that we see a more vulnerable and scarred Olivia this season. Its beautiful to watch.
Oh Edison, chap doesn't stand a chance. He was a forceful little something but the reason it comes across so irritating is because as a viewer it is easy to forget about their history. I loved the first meeting of pope and associates but it kinda sucks that they forgot about Stephen. He used to be her best friend. Well crafted episode. Loved it. I feel like there is this inconsistency with Mellies portrayal in the flashbacks though. Sometimes she's overly ambitious cold mellie and other times she's happy Susie homemaker. She's already both deliciously evil and also sympathetic, they needn't w
January 18th, 2013 11:03 AM
Edison does not make Olivia better and while I don't care for him, I don't understand why everyone is taken aback at the way he spoke to her. They were together for four years and in the process engaged. Certainly he knows when she's lying and all of the evidence pointed in that direction.
Secondly, Mellie cares about Mellie. There is not one thing that she does for Fitz that does not include some little nugget for herself. She must have seen this Fitz/Jerry thing play out for what, more than 20 years, yet she couldn't resist the need to call him and watch the takedown of her husband. Not one thing could she say directly to Fitz about how he was feeling after the shooting--not one question, statement or anything. Political gain is her only interest. Mellie should have married Jerry, not Fitz. Oh, and watch the speed at which Karen and Little Jerry are home and enrolled at Sidwell Friends. Infant doesn't stand a chance--mama will do anything to be sure that Fitz doesn't leave.
Rank: Extra
January 18th, 2013 10:34 AM
I wished the review would have reflected my previous comment a bit: How lame the excuse for the treason was: I love him, he's good, he should stick it to his evil daddy.. oh, come on. At least the other candidate should have been more of a threat to the welfare of the country. But taking Prozac? It does not even come close to a legitimate reason.
January 18th, 2013 10:15 AM
I waited till this episode to finalize my verdict, but now I'm done: The five conspirators deserve the death penalty. They committed high treason for no good reason and there is just simply no excuse for that. Even Walter White is less evil than these 5.
Rank: Staff Member
January 18th, 2013 7:13 AM
@Deinara--I would never want the show to have flashbacks in every episode, but I do think that when Scandal does flashbacks, it does them well.
@Fugefase--I think where Olivia is concerned Fitz' judgment is skewed, as hers is with him. He won't forget the betrayal, but I don't think it will keep them apart.
Rank: Staff Member
January 18th, 2013 7:10 AM
@TooSilver--I also think that only Olivia herself is aware of just how much her complicity in all of this has cost her.
Rank: Staff Member
January 18th, 2013 7:01 AM
@TooSilver--I think the reason the focus is on the love affair is because that's the part that feels most real-life. While the other laundry list of things you mentioned happen, those are more easily written as fiction and are therefore part of the subplot of this show. I DO, however, agree with you that more focus should be paid to what this affair, and the cover up, are doing to Olivia. People think she's done all of these things TO others, but they've come with great cost to herself, in my opinion.
January 18th, 2013 5:17 AM
Fitz WILL find out about Olivia's part in the election and it will separate them forever. He might be able to forgive but he will never forget the betrayal.
January 18th, 2013 1:59 AM
I like the combination of both flashback and present day, since they do it so well, but I do not want every episode to be that way. I think we no should have a period of focusing on a few more Scandalous cases ot OP&A.
Also: 1)Hollis is not in this alone esp the hit on POTUS 2)I did not believe a word out of Sally's mouth, 3)I do not see Mellie stepping aside for Liv...no way is it going to be that easy, 4)Even if Fitz becomes a divorced President (an interesting idea for sure) no way could he marry Olivia and carry on as President...such a PR nightmare with all that has come down...talk about potential impeachment!! and finally 5)Mellie's baby would have to not survive for Fitz and Liv to have a ghost of a chance if Mel did agree to give him up.
Waiting two weeks for more will make me crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 18th, 2013 1:21 AM
It's also interesting to me that people are concerned about what the Fitz and Olivia relationship is doing to Olivia. Forget that, can we talk about what SHE just did to him? She rigged an election. Sure she loves him and did it for his happiness (supposedly) but Fitz is not the kind of man who wants to win at any cost. He would never have supported this or wanted this for himself. He will be shattered when he finds out that the love his life did this thing he would never have believed her capable of. Olivia makes these crazy life changing decisions for him and everyone else but Fitz is the one that people are conflicted about? Wow.
January 18th, 2013 1:19 AM
It's taken this long for some to see that Fitzgerald Grant III is a flawed HUMAN? Really? I honestly can't believe there is still moaning about the fact that he's cheating this far into the series. Especially compared to the lies, forgeries, coverups, conspiracies and MURDERS we've seen every other character participate in. People are more outrage about an affair that is clearly a LOVE affair and not just a seedy fling than they are about everything else on the show. Fascinating.