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NCIS Round Table: "Shabbat Shalom"

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Our NCIS review broke down "Shabbat Shalom," this week's episode of TV's #1 show, in detail.

Now, TV Fanatic staff members Steve Marsi, Douglas Wolfe and Eric Hochberger have assembled for our weekly Round Table Q&A discussion of various events and topics from this powerful installment.

Join in as we analyze the return (and demise) of Eli, Vance's loss, and what comes next ...

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1. Describe this episode in one word (or two, or three, or four).

Steve: Powerful and unexpected.

Doug: Brilliant and heartbreaking.

Eric: Still in shock.

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2. Best episode of NCIS Season 10 so far?

Steve: With a show like this, "best" can mean so many things. The balance of episodes varies so much in terms of weightiness and symbolism, humor and continuity, although almost all of them are excellent. I will say I haven't been this shaken up by an installment since Season 8's memorable "Swan Song."

Doug: I've been wracking my brain trying to remember a better one. This one even surpasses the last episode of Season 9 and the first of Season 10, when NCIS was bombed.

Eric: I agree with Steve and Doug. Definitely the most powerful of this season and up there with Mike's death and a few other episodes in terms of making you lie awake thinking about it afterwards.

3. Favorite quotes or scenes from "Shabbat Shalom"?

Steve: Ziva screaming "Abba" and bawling was enough to give anyone the chills, as was Gibbs standing stone-faced and ignoring the SecNav's calls. These scenes are enhanced by the fact that we're so invested in these characters after 10 seasons. Overall, I could answer the entire episode. Superb TV entertainment, but also emblematic of the uncertain times we live in.

Doug: It's a three-way toss up: Ziva's agony over the death of her father was heartbreaking. The scene with Tony and Gibbs standing sentinel at the hospital waiting room was, I think, the best scene cinematically. So stark, and filled with such tension. I rewound it and watched it again. And finally, the dead look in Vance's eyes as he answer's Gibbs' question. "She's dead. My wife is dead, Gibbs."

Eric: This Round Table and the comments on Doug's review will be dominated, justifiably, with reactions to the shooting. So I'll give a humorous mention to the old photos and undercover guises. Not sure if the soul patch really works on Michael Weatherly, however Cote does make a cute pregnant person, am I wrong?

4. The twice-fatal conclusion: Did you see it coming?

Steve: You had to get the sense something would happen to Eli. One of the most targeted men in the world giving everyone the slip is a recipe for disaster. Shalom can mean "hello" and "goodbye," and next week's episode title "Shiva," refers to the Hebrew mourning period. Nevertheless, I wasn't sure if he'd actually die, and was stunned that Jackie Vance became collateral damage of his mission.

Doug: Some of our commenters took a cue from the tearful scene in the car when Eli asked Ziva to join him across from the table "one last time," and guessed that he would die. I didn't. I had no idea that either he or Jackie - or that anyone actually - would be killed.

Eric: Sadly, after the secret meeting with Vance, Gibbs, Eli and his Iranian counterpart, I did. I half expected it to take place then. Jackie's key role in the episode made me fear the worst for her as well, though I was still quite surprised to be proven correct in this hunch. Part of me can't believe the writers went there.

5. Does NCIS rely too heavily on character deaths?

Steve: I've thought a lot about this. At times it seems that way, then again, such episodes are the best in the show's history. The storylines are multi-layered, altering the fabric of the characters and the show, and not done solely for shock value. It's sad that Palmer is basically the only one with a family outside of NCIS now, however this is also somewhat realistic in this line of work.

Doug: I've read that criticism in a few places, but vehemently disagree with it. I was actually surprised that Ducky made it through his drama alive at the start of Season 10. No, the writers of NCIS are very careful in who they kill off, and there is always a compelling story and reason when they do. These deaths will have an effect, on both Ziva and Leon Vance. We already know, from the promo for next week, that Ziva will be after vengeance. I can't even imagine Vance as subdued or even acting in a professional by-the-book manner after his wife's death.

Eric: Sometimes, I wish they wouldn't do this. Jackie in particular felt unnecessary to kill off. However, as Steve said, there's no denying the collective brilliance of the cast and writers last night and in similar episodes. So, I guess we have to trust them and see where they take this next week and beyond.

6. Best acting performance of the night?

Steve: Rocky Carroll's face at the end said it all. Truly awesome work.

Doug: Cote de Pablo, hands down. She nailed it with full commitment.

Eric: Rocky and Cote were both amazing. The latter deserves Emmy consideration for this effort I'd say. But in the interest of offering a different answer, Michael Nouri delivered a great, convincing final performance as Eli, and Mark Harmon's stoic brilliance was also a sight to behold.

7. Who do you think was behind the shooting?

Steve: Eli's list of enemies is a mile long, and his supposed Iranian "friend" is certainly an option, being that he knew his whereabouts. That may be too obvious, however. An inside job by Mossad? A rogue Palestinian operative? What I'm almost more intrigued by can be summed up in one word: Revenge. Will it fall on Gibbs, a man who took matters into his own hands under similar circumstances, to rein in Ziva and Leon as they seek payback?

Doug: My guess is Mossad commissioned it. Logically, it's the only thing that would keep Iran and Israel from going to war. If Iran was behind it, then all bets would be off. Also, there's the fact that, before he died, the assassin said "I did not expect you to come after me, rather than checking on your father." So whoever made the decision probably knows them intimately.

Eric: That's the million-dollar question going forward, and almost an afterthought following the end of "Shabbat Shalom." I can't even venture a guess, but you know there will be dire ramifications.

What's your take on these issues of the week on NCIS? Discuss below!

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Why this show has never been nominated for an Emmy as Best Dramatic Series or Mark Harmon Best Actor is beyond me. This show over 9 years has continued to put out solid episodes year after year. This one is a prime example of what great television is all about. I commend everyone on the series for a fantastic episode!

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I have always loved NCIS, but "Shabbat Shalom" was incredible. I figured Eli was either going to be shot or die, but I did not expect Jackie Vance to die! The entire show was great. The emotions that involved each and every member was great, yet so very moving. I cried when Ziva shouted for her father! It was so touching. And the look of compassion and outrage were far greater than words.
I can hardly wait til next week. Please - Please do not allow any member of this show to leave, it would not be whole otherwise. I am just shocked over this episode. Bravo!!

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While I have no complaints about Cote de Pablo's acting, I didn't think her very vocal response to her father's death was in character or in keeping with their history. Tears and sorrow, certainly, but not running and shouting. I also agree with those who found Jackie's death gratuitous. To me, however, the low point of the episode was Eli's casual murder confession. That Eli would kill a man for taking his photo and then pass it off as a trivial act, and think that Ziva would not mind ... it's simply not credible. Eli may be a psychopath, and he may be used to passing off the murders of Palestinians as necessary for Israeli security, but he's not that clueless. It also bothers me that Israelis are being portrayed in increasingly dark and cynical terms on NCIS and elsewhere (e.g., Covert Affairs). I don't support Israeli policy at all, but that doesn't make Israelis ruthless, duplicitous killing machines.

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@Mike NCIS is the #1 show it is because of the expertise of all the characters. Each one is special in their own way. I watch all the marathons.

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@tiva loved your comment very well written and i agree with everything you said.think we will have to wait a bit more for tiva.

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Writers-producers definetely do have talent to create and administrate emotions.Their planning and their perception about series is important.
Technically, however i suggest that they "burned" some very good future scenarios, some of the best ratings on tv and two good actors.
Eli (M Nouri)for instance in series even as a retired would offer some very amusing episodes with Tony-Ziva-Tony senior relationship and probably the best ratings so far.
On the case, Eli two times try protect Ziva even by made her furious.Also gave her a wish.There was a proeconomia to his words from writers. As his identity was exposed it was a matter of time something to happen.Its like to provoke it or to have reach to an end.
I assume personal differences with people-used by others- might presented as the cause.
Maybe also writers present Eli trying to protect Lion or Jackie Vance.
From the best-most dramatic episodes in this sequence but with closing a circle.

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1. Describe this episode in one word (or two, or three, or four) Heartbreaking and Shocking.
2. Best episode of NCIS Season 10 so far?
yes it is so far this is why NCIS is still going strong in season 10.
3. Favorite quotes or scenes from "Shabbat Shalom"
Ziva realizing her father is dead and when she called for him and sat by him hugging him.
4. The twice-fatal conclusion: Did you see it coming?
not about Eli but not so much with Jackie I read a couple weeks a ago a follow fan said Jackie was going to die but I thought it was wrong but I was wrong it was her.
5. Does NCIS rely too heavily on character deaths?
no NCIS had worst Characters death with Kate, Jenny and Franks and this makes it more realistic.
6. Best acting performance of the night?
I say both Rocky Carroll and Cote de Pablo 7. Who do you think was behind the shooting?
am thinking to get Eli out like they say out with the old and in with the new. Hi Janet I wish we would of had Tony and Ziva TLC too

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This is where they will introduce the deputy director of NCIS to take over the investigation as Leon is too close to the case. New character with multi directions they can head into.

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@Angela They needed to kill someone off to make the show believable again and since all of the main star are staying it had to be Ziva father and Vance wife

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I agree completely with what Kris R said about Ziva. I just don't understand why they had to kill Jackie. At least there was one married- and happily- couple. I guess you can't have a life and work at NCIS.

NCIS Season 10 Episode 11 Quotes

Leon Vance: So. We'll still have the house to ourselves after dinner right?
Jackie Vance: You had your shot, baby.

Leroy Gibbs: Leon?
Leon Vance: She's dead. My wife is dead, Gibbs.

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