The Vampire Diaries Round Table: "O Come, All Ye Faithful" Comments (Page 4)
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Chantelle26
December 14th, 2012 4:30 PM
...night's episode. I see his good and bad points as a character.
Also Caroline saying that she hates Damon because he is a narcisstic man slut!! Yeah because you would always wanna remind yourself and your friends about how you were basically rapped by someone. There is no other possible motivation for maybe finding another 'reason' to hate on Damon...nope, none at all...yeah right
Chantelle26
December 14th, 2012 4:27 PM
Wow...the fact that she feels a little guilty about what she is doing = forgiveness of past wrongs...yeah that makes sense
Also the fact that Caroline has been used by more than one guy for sex means that she is not upset at Damon using her as well??? Not following your logic...
By blood bag i meant the fact that Damon would have sex with her and also feed off of her not anything else. and she was not flirting with Klaus at the dinner party...that's just non-sensical
It's very true that Caroline as a human was jealous, neurotic and insecure. I never said she wasn't but that does not mean that despite these attributes being magnified by her vampirism, they are the motivation for all her decisions and choices. What you call 'character-study' is just your own bias.
I'll be the first one to admit that I quite frankly think Damon is an ass but despite that I do believe that he sometimes acts out of love and self-lessness for his brother and Elena (and even Rose) like in last nig
oh and @Lala i thought the same thing about Damon...I thought he should have left town too instead of being a stalker...although Elena was always flirting with him, cause no one on this show is very good at staying Loyal to their significant other...except maybe Stefan...and Jenna and Alaric
And i'm referring to the end of the episode when Klaus and Caroline were saying they feel bad for Klaus cause he isnt much worst then them...
and it's not "Pathetic fan girl talk" it's called studying the character...Caroline has always been jealous, insecure, neurotic, and when you're a vampire it's magnified...
also, Caroline wasnt even upset by the fact that he used her sexually...since she's been used sexually by lots of guys as the pilot and other episodes refer to. Also The bloodbag thing was referred to when Caroline became a vampire and she was wondering if she was more similar to Damon and not Stefan in reference to feeding habits.. she also still had feelings for Damon after all that happened. And even as recently as last episode she said the reason she didnt like Damon is because he was a "narcissistic man slut" none of those seem to refer to her being upset over "Damon using her as a blow-up sex doll/blood bag by preying on her insecurities"
she was flirting with Klaus..back at the whole original ball thing with the dancing and the dress and the bracelet..and drawing..
bm232 Rank: Guest Star
December 14th, 2012 4:06 PM
"Honestly, I have no idea what Caroline's deal is with Damon."
You're an idiot. There's grounds to criticize Caroline's cheerleading of Stefan, but not getting "what Caroline's deal is" with DAMON?! You're an idiot. And an offensive one at that.
Chantelle26
December 14th, 2012 3:59 PM
@Relbelle also she hasn't forgiven Klaus for killing Jenna (Rebekah killed Elena) since she is actively participating in the plot to get rid of Klaus. She is admittedly intrigued by Klaus but she knows where her loyalities lie.
Also jealous of Elena and Damon...that's pathetic fan girl talk...you ever considered the fact that she still hasn't gotten over Damon using her as a blow-up sex doll/blood bag by preying on her insecurities??
oh and to participate
What was your favorite scene from the episode?
Ooh okay i will have two answers..i thought Klaus's murderous rampage to eery christmas music was beautifully done...so in terms of well directed scenes I go with that one including the drowning
and other scenes... I liked Damon so much this episode...so hard to choose..from him being peaceful and normal and just enjoying watching Elena smiling with her bestie and brother,to the little boy look on his face when elena tried to kiss him under the mistletoe, to his simple kiss with elena before she got in the car...but I got to give it up to his comment to Bonnie nd Jeremy
"geeee...i wonder who that could be..." Oh you matchmaker you
Did Damon make the right decision in letting Elena go?
No its so stupid...i Feel like it's just peer pressure from his brother... and I feel like Stefan is just being a dick to keep them apart
Caroline ratting out the red hot Delena sex to Stefan: The right move or none of her
Lala
December 14th, 2012 3:56 PM
I am laughing so hard at all the comments saying Stefan is the bad guy and he should move on (even better, leave town)! Stefan and Elena have been broken up for what, a fee days, a week? Is that how quickly people usually move on? And does one normally leave town after a breakup? Damon pined over Elena and interjected himself in her relationship with Stefan for years. Shouldn't he have moved on years ago and left town thus rendering this new relationship nonexistent by everyone's logic? It's fine if you want a particular couple. But let's at least try to look at some things objectively.
Chantelle26
December 14th, 2012 3:48 PM
@Relbelle she was flirting with Klaus because it was part of TYLER's plan!!
anna
December 14th, 2012 3:45 PM
I hated this episode..everything about it sucked! I hate this stupid sire thing..and since this happened Caroline has become soo annoying I can't even stand seeing her! I don't get why Damon had to "set her free", she's never been happier, and he ignored what Tyler said about it not changing your feelings! Talking about Tyler..I feel so bad for him, about his mom and his hybrids. I used to really like Klaus but now I don't! And why is he making the Sacrifice? So he's in on this with that sketchy professor? I'm scared aboute what this Sacrifice will do..and what Silas will be..a bigger bad than Klaus I hope, which isn't scary at all!
Chantelle26
December 14th, 2012 3:44 PM
Yup this panel is really biased. Damon sexually & emotionally abused Caroline but she is the bad guy??? That's a real crock! Caroline was just looking out for Stefan. He is her friend & she didn't want to see him be made a fool....why???? Because she is a GOOD person.
San
December 14th, 2012 3:42 PM
(2nd part) Pen a eulogy for Mayor Lockwood.
Steve's answer was hilarious and perfect, lmao! More surprising: April freeing Rebekah, Klaus ripping out the hearts of every hybrid of Jeremy's physique?
April freeing Rebekah! I mean - that scared little girl just got to know Caroline is a dead living being and all that stuff! And the first thing she does (instead of running away screaming) is to pull herself together and free her friend. That's amazing, seriously. Give the first half of The Vampire Diaries Season 4 a grade.
B-/C Professor Shady's great, but all those dump decisions, sire bond stuff etc. are getting on my nerves.
San
December 14th, 2012 3:41 PM
What was your favorite scene from the episode?
The Klaus massacre. Finally we were remembered why one has to fear that Original. Was about time! Did Damon make the right decision in letting Elena go?
No. Miranda is absolutely right. Caroline ratting out the red hot Delena sex to Stefan: The right move or none of her beeswax?
I really love Caroline, but that was annoying! She got into trouble with Tyler because she spilled something out to Stefan and so she spills another thing to Stefan? Seriously?
not to mention her being so willing to forgive Klaus...the person who murdered JENNA AND ELENA... her supposed best friend..although we've proven Caroline is the worst best friend/ girlfriend (flirting with Tyler when she's with Matt, Flirting with Klaus when she's with Tyler)
I feel like Caroline is just jealous cause Damon never really wanted her and she was obsessed with him...
but I feel like Stefan has been wrong too... What kind of stalker ex boyfriend tries to be best friends with his ex girlfriends best friend since childhood...it's weird...find your own friends... Go move to a different town....move on....
Okay..Caroline is dating Tyler who tried to rape Vicki in the Pilot...
chill out judge
Kurt
December 14th, 2012 3:29 PM
@Ilk vomit...the coffin was there when he killed the hybrid..look again
Miranda Wicker Rank: Staff Member
December 14th, 2012 3:28 PM
@nasne--yes, she did hear that conversation. But it's crazy to me that she's been at boarding school and knows where the Lockwood cellars are when NONE of the other characters knew where they were before season 1 and they'd never lived anywhere else.
@kurt--that makes sense. Klaus was just a weapon. A bloody, brutal weapon.
Ilk_vomit Rank: Regular Character
December 14th, 2012 3:23 PM
How was Rebekahs coffin there one moment and then it wasnt when Klaus killed that one ....ugh Hybrid ??
Kurt
December 14th, 2012 3:20 PM
@Miranda ... Klaus wasn't working with Hayley and Shane.. Klaus killed the hybrids because they were no longer sired to him/they betrayed him...Shane and Hayley only used Klaus as a way to kill 12 hybrids by getting them unsired so that Klaus has a reason to kill the hybrids(Klaus has no idea about "the 12 that has to be killed") when Hayley text shane "I'll fix it. You'll get your twelve" and we see hayley talking to Klaus:That's her telling Klaus about the fact that the hybrids are no longer sired.
nasne Rank: Guest Star
December 14th, 2012 3:06 PM
Didn't April hear caroline say on the phone that rebekah's body was in the cellar??? Otherwise I don't know. I don't think this round table is biased. The writing this season is really bad.
Evil Queen Rank: Regular Character
December 14th, 2012 2:50 PM
wow this round table is really biased.Caroline is whiny just because she hates Damon for what he did to her and looking out for her friends?oh okay.
Elena : I just want to kill her. It's that simple.
December 14th, 2012 4:30 PM
...night's episode. I see his good and bad points as a character.
Also Caroline saying that she hates Damon because he is a narcisstic man slut!! Yeah because you would always wanna remind yourself and your friends about how you were basically rapped by someone. There is no other possible motivation for maybe finding another 'reason' to hate on Damon...nope, none at all...yeah right
December 14th, 2012 4:27 PM
Wow...the fact that she feels a little guilty about what she is doing = forgiveness of past wrongs...yeah that makes sense
Also the fact that Caroline has been used by more than one guy for sex means that she is not upset at Damon using her as well??? Not following your logic...
By blood bag i meant the fact that Damon would have sex with her and also feed off of her not anything else. and she was not flirting with Klaus at the dinner party...that's just non-sensical
It's very true that Caroline as a human was jealous, neurotic and insecure. I never said she wasn't but that does not mean that despite these attributes being magnified by her vampirism, they are the motivation for all her decisions and choices. What you call 'character-study' is just your own bias.
I'll be the first one to admit that I quite frankly think Damon is an ass but despite that I do believe that he sometimes acts out of love and self-lessness for his brother and Elena (and even Rose) like in last nig
Rank: Extra
December 14th, 2012 4:16 PM
oh and @Lala i thought the same thing about Damon...I thought he should have left town too instead of being a stalker...although Elena was always flirting with him, cause no one on this show is very good at staying Loyal to their significant other...except maybe Stefan...and Jenna and Alaric
Rank: Extra
December 14th, 2012 4:14 PM
@Chantelle26
And i'm referring to the end of the episode when Klaus and Caroline were saying they feel bad for Klaus cause he isnt much worst then them...
and it's not "Pathetic fan girl talk" it's called studying the character...Caroline has always been jealous, insecure, neurotic, and when you're a vampire it's magnified...
also, Caroline wasnt even upset by the fact that he used her sexually...since she's been used sexually by lots of guys as the pilot and other episodes refer to. Also The bloodbag thing was referred to when Caroline became a vampire and she was wondering if she was more similar to Damon and not Stefan in reference to feeding habits.. she also still had feelings for Damon after all that happened. And even as recently as last episode she said the reason she didnt like Damon is because he was a "narcissistic man slut" none of those seem to refer to her being upset over "Damon using her as a blow-up sex doll/blood bag by preying on her insecurities"
Rank: Extra
December 14th, 2012 4:08 PM
@Chantelle26
she was flirting with Klaus..back at the whole original ball thing with the dancing and the dress and the bracelet..and drawing..
Rank: Guest Star
December 14th, 2012 4:06 PM
"Honestly, I have no idea what Caroline's deal is with Damon."
You're an idiot. There's grounds to criticize Caroline's cheerleading of Stefan, but not getting "what Caroline's deal is" with DAMON?! You're an idiot. And an offensive one at that.
December 14th, 2012 3:59 PM
@Relbelle also she hasn't forgiven Klaus for killing Jenna (Rebekah killed Elena) since she is actively participating in the plot to get rid of Klaus. She is admittedly intrigued by Klaus but she knows where her loyalities lie.
Also jealous of Elena and Damon...that's pathetic fan girl talk...you ever considered the fact that she still hasn't gotten over Damon using her as a blow-up sex doll/blood bag by preying on her insecurities??
Rank: Extra
December 14th, 2012 3:59 PM
oh and to participate
What was your favorite scene from the episode?
Ooh okay i will have two answers..i thought Klaus's murderous rampage to eery christmas music was beautifully done...so in terms of well directed scenes I go with that one including the drowning
and other scenes... I liked Damon so much this episode...so hard to choose..from him being peaceful and normal and just enjoying watching Elena smiling with her bestie and brother,to the little boy look on his face when elena tried to kiss him under the mistletoe, to his simple kiss with elena before she got in the car...but I got to give it up to his comment to Bonnie nd Jeremy
"geeee...i wonder who that could be..." Oh you matchmaker you
Did Damon make the right decision in letting Elena go?
No its so stupid...i Feel like it's just peer pressure from his brother... and I feel like Stefan is just being a dick to keep them apart
Caroline ratting out the red hot Delena sex to Stefan: The right move or none of her
December 14th, 2012 3:56 PM
I am laughing so hard at all the comments saying Stefan is the bad guy and he should move on (even better, leave town)! Stefan and Elena have been broken up for what, a fee days, a week? Is that how quickly people usually move on? And does one normally leave town after a breakup? Damon pined over Elena and interjected himself in her relationship with Stefan for years. Shouldn't he have moved on years ago and left town thus rendering this new relationship nonexistent by everyone's logic? It's fine if you want a particular couple. But let's at least try to look at some things objectively.
December 14th, 2012 3:48 PM
@Relbelle she was flirting with Klaus because it was part of TYLER's plan!!
December 14th, 2012 3:45 PM
I hated this episode..everything about it sucked! I hate this stupid sire thing..and since this happened Caroline has become soo annoying I can't even stand seeing her! I don't get why Damon had to "set her free", she's never been happier, and he ignored what Tyler said about it not changing your feelings! Talking about Tyler..I feel so bad for him, about his mom and his hybrids. I used to really like Klaus but now I don't! And why is he making the Sacrifice? So he's in on this with that sketchy professor? I'm scared aboute what this Sacrifice will do..and what Silas will be..a bigger bad than Klaus I hope, which isn't scary at all!
December 14th, 2012 3:44 PM
Yup this panel is really biased. Damon sexually & emotionally abused Caroline but she is the bad guy??? That's a real crock! Caroline was just looking out for Stefan. He is her friend & she didn't want to see him be made a fool....why???? Because she is a GOOD person.
December 14th, 2012 3:42 PM
(2nd part)
Pen a eulogy for Mayor Lockwood.
Steve's answer was hilarious and perfect, lmao!
More surprising: April freeing Rebekah, Klaus ripping out the hearts of every hybrid of Jeremy's physique?
April freeing Rebekah! I mean - that scared little girl just got to know Caroline is a dead living being and all that stuff! And the first thing she does (instead of running away screaming) is to pull herself together and free her friend. That's amazing, seriously.
Give the first half of The Vampire Diaries Season 4 a grade.
B-/C Professor Shady's great, but all those dump decisions, sire bond stuff etc. are getting on my nerves.
December 14th, 2012 3:41 PM
What was your favorite scene from the episode?
The Klaus massacre. Finally we were remembered why one has to fear that Original. Was about time!
Did Damon make the right decision in letting Elena go?
No. Miranda is absolutely right.
Caroline ratting out the red hot Delena sex to Stefan: The right move or none of her beeswax?
I really love Caroline, but that was annoying! She got into trouble with Tyler because she spilled something out to Stefan and so she spills another thing to Stefan? Seriously?
Rank: Extra
December 14th, 2012 3:41 PM
not to mention her being so willing to forgive Klaus...the person who murdered JENNA AND ELENA... her supposed best friend..although we've proven Caroline is the worst best friend/ girlfriend (flirting with Tyler when she's with Matt, Flirting with Klaus when she's with Tyler)
I feel like Caroline is just jealous cause Damon never really wanted her and she was obsessed with him...
but I feel like Stefan has been wrong too... What kind of stalker ex boyfriend tries to be best friends with his ex girlfriends best friend since childhood...it's weird...find your own friends... Go move to a different town....move on....
Rank: Extra
December 14th, 2012 3:38 PM
Okay..Caroline is dating Tyler who tried to rape Vicki in the Pilot...
chill out judge
December 14th, 2012 3:29 PM
@Ilk vomit...the coffin was there when he killed the hybrid..look again
Rank: Staff Member
December 14th, 2012 3:28 PM
@nasne--yes, she did hear that conversation. But it's crazy to me that she's been at boarding school and knows where the Lockwood cellars are when NONE of the other characters knew where they were before season 1 and they'd never lived anywhere else.
@kurt--that makes sense. Klaus was just a weapon. A bloody, brutal weapon.
Rank: Regular Character
December 14th, 2012 3:23 PM
How was Rebekahs coffin there one moment and then it wasnt when Klaus killed that one ....ugh Hybrid ??
December 14th, 2012 3:20 PM
@Miranda ... Klaus wasn't working with Hayley and Shane.. Klaus killed the hybrids because they were no longer sired to him/they betrayed him...Shane and Hayley only used Klaus as a way to kill 12 hybrids by getting them unsired so that Klaus has a reason to kill the hybrids(Klaus has no idea about "the 12 that has to be killed") when Hayley text shane "I'll fix it. You'll get your twelve" and we see hayley talking to Klaus:That's her telling Klaus about the fact that the hybrids are no longer sired.
Rank: Guest Star
December 14th, 2012 3:06 PM
Didn't April hear caroline say on the phone that rebekah's body was in the cellar??? Otherwise I don't know. I don't think this round table is biased. The writing this season is really bad.
Rank: Regular Character
December 14th, 2012 2:50 PM
wow this round table is really biased.Caroline is whiny just because she hates Damon for what he did to her and looking out for her friends?oh okay.