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The real mystery is who Jane and Red John really are. Both their lives are hidden. We don't know the real backstory on either of them. We have to eat our vegetables before we can have desert! The writer's haven't even scratched the surface on Jane yet.

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I think that when this long ride we have been on is over and the writer's stop the car and we open the door and get out; we are going to say OMG it was him.... I should have known! I believe Red John was a ordinary man that worked his way up. During this time he went through a huge transformation or had one fabulous makeover! ANYWAY! Red John's styles of killings seem to have changed from then to now. I believe it was because he was in transition during these periods. Now he is stable and becoming a master. Before I really got into the series I was only concerned about revealing Red John. I think the backstory may be the most important of all. I think it will reveal Jane's and Red John's lives and how they came to be. It's not just about the who of it. It's about the why and how of it as well. That is why Jane's past is so hidden.

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Jane learned his skills by being born and raised in a traveling carnival environment and coming from a long line of carney people. He is extremely intelligent with a natural gift for "reading" people. He reads constantly, deeply and over a wide range of topics. He was reading Carl Jung at the end of Season 4. Jung wrote his ideas in what is called his "Red Book." (There we go again.) The Jung philosophy is pretty consistent with what Red John seems to believe. (Pure crap IMHO, but he's a serial killer, so can't expect much.) If Royston is RJ I would be disappointed because he's too uninteresting. That's not a good disappointment to have. We have no investment in him as viewers. We need to have a good cartharsis in seeing him brought down. Royston would be a yawner. OTOH Mashburn would be a bitter disappointment and that's not good either.

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I don't think I'm going to be disappointed when Red John is revealed. Red John seems to be someone who was a working class person who worked his way up. His insanity has somehow transformed him or Red John had a fabulous makeover when he came into his fortune! ANYWAY! Red John has been a killer for a long time. His styles of killing have have changed probably because his was still in transition during these times. Once he is revealed they will also reveal Red John's back story and that by itself will be absolutely fascinating. More fascinating is the fact that Jane has known him the whole time!

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Red John's vioce seems very strange as if he's hiding it. Why? Because it is something you can't change, it's like a finger print. If Red John talked in his normal voice Jane would recognize it!

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Professor Moriarty was Sherlocks childhood math teacher and later went insane. Bret Stile did tell Jane he was acting like an apprentice of sorts. Professor Moriarty liked Sherlocks intelligence but was willing to kill him if necessary. Red John has a twisted affection for Jane and has had the opportunity kill him but has not. Jane and Red John share the same set of skills. Red John seems to be superior to Jane. They seem to have a Grasshopper and teacher relationship. Jane can't recognize Red John because he is now insane. They sill however share the same attributes and skills. I think Red John has gone through a radical transformation of sorts as not to be detectable to Jane.

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Could it be possible that the person that trained Jane is Red John? Oh, wait a minute, a pupil, teacher rivalry. This idea sure keeps up w/ the Moriarty storyline! This could be a major clue!

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Jennifer1, you present a good solid case. Do you have any other connectors? I haven't eliminatated anyone but I do have my main suspects at the top of the list! We did say that these rich bad guys run in the same little circles and it is not inconceivable that these two organizations are connected in some way. The writer's did not just accidentally present two organizations like this for no reason. Something to think about. What I want to know is where did Jane pick up his skills, who trained him? He never went to high school and so he probably didn't go to college. So who did he train under?

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My 1st pick for Red John is Jane's father or a relative. I'm looking for connector's. Look at this RJ-PJ. Looking at all the tea drinkers. Guess what and it may be nothing but Cho drinks tea and he knows Blake. There are so many things to consider but I'm sure it can be narrowed down. I did discover that Visualize believes in the same philosophy as Red John and was referred as a brainwashing cult. Watch the episode the Red all Over. The Visualize cult member speaks the same dogma.

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Plus, you make some good points about Mashburn but I love the Mashburn character and I refuse to believe he’s RJ! ;-)




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