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Episode quite boring and done very mechanically, it seemed the episodes of season 4. I hope they do not return to that level. Season 5 is still great, but this episode was pretty boring. The best: the list and Jane, and every scene where Jane is. When the episode is bad,the only thing interesting is to look at Jane. Mi Suspects: Mashburn and Kirkland

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LIGHT A CANDLE AND HOLD A SEANCE!

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Rationalgal, as much as we like getting involved with these character's we have to take a bird's eye view. Otherwise we will be taken in by the con! This show has taught me a great deal. Everything is not as it seems to be! I refuse to be manipulated in a manner that blinds me. Everybody is a suspect, until they are not! I love all that Baker is doing with his character, he is really working his magic! But, he is still on the list too! IF YOU DON'T....HEAR FROM ME AGAIN.....!

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Continued- Jane appears to be super intelligent. Jane also has a real vengeful side. I love the Jane character, he's very loveable, charming, charismatic, sweet, loyal..... So is Red John! You are forgetting Jane killed a man that was not Red John, will he kill again and be wrong? Just like Jane in Flame Red, I see Jane! We seem to be letting Jane off the hook for some very bads things he's done. We are like Jane's relative's, I know my Janey would'nt do that! Until the writer's explain this, my brow will be raised! You can contain and control a lion but he is still a man eater!

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Continued- Most people when tragedy strikes, go on with their lives. Why is Jane so hellbent? His education is mysterious for me too. He knows way to much. I understand that he is very intelligent but he displays formal education at times. He uses list order acronyms and menemonic's among other things. His extensive knowdge of hypnosis suggest formal training. He didn't learn this all by himself. His tragedy set him on the right path but you never know when he'll bite you. Who educated Jane and why does Jane not want anything to do with his family. All these things are hidden.

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Rationalgal, The up front story for Jane is correct. BUT! The mystery for me is this; Jane came to the CBI after his family was killed and has said that he was using them to catch Red John. USING THEM! People get killed when they cross him and Red John has killed them for Jane. When Jane was talking to Rebecca and she told him that Red John killed so he could get the case back, (you have to watch closely) Jane had a slight grin on his face. This is rather mysterious for me. It could have meant he was happy to get the case back but I don't think given what happened that he should have done that.

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Jennifer1, you are right, I was thinking the same thing! But you know like I know, you cannot watch this show and not do what we are doing. I do think that we stripped away a lot of the mystery behind the subplot. Everything we figured out was hidden and therefore msyterious. Now it's not! We can speculate all we want about who Red John is but we will never know until the writer's show us. I think we caught all the clues and we can now sit back and enjoy the ride again. It won't be as hard because we won't have over 100 episodes to go over. LOL! I still have some questions but I think season 5 will shed some light on that. I did find something interesting when I watched Fugue in Red. I KNOW! BUT I'M GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE ANYWAY!

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Continue: His worldview is reality based but understanding of the need people have (sometimes including himself) for fantasy to help escape the harshness of that reality. He accepts the truth even when it hurts, but is torn by his inability to accept it in the deaths of his family He will do that in some way at the end. Perhaps RJ's bio would be just the opposite, causing him to envy Jane. If we want to get into mythology, we can go into the biblical creation stories, where the serpent was jealous of Adam and Eve and sought to bring about their downfall, as RJ seeks to do with Jane. All myths are allegories aimed at telling us some truth about ourselves or the world. The Mentalist is allegorical, and beautifully done.

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I don't see any mystery about Jane. He is the most fully developed character I've ever seen on TV. We know his carney background pretty well (lacking info only about his mother) and how he hated exploiting vulnerable people but accepted it as part of the only life he knew. He loved the fun part of carney life - the clowns and games, which shows in his joy at revisiting that life occasionally and in the childlike aspects of his character. He and Angels escaped the carney environment but he could not free himself from the desire for the fame and fortune being a psychic brought - perhaps because it was the only thing he knew how to do. Having a family brought great joy and the loss so devastated him that he became mentally ill and suicidal for about a year. He seeks freedom from the pain of that loss by seeking revenge. Perhaps because of his exposure to pure evil, he is kind to those who deserve kindness and merciless to those who harm innocent people. His worldview is reality based but understanding of the need (even he sometimes has) to escape the harshness of that reality through fantasy. He knows and accepts the truth even though it hurts, and so he is torn by not being able to accept the deaths of his family. He will do that in some way at the end. Perhaps RJ's bio would be just the opposite, causing him envy. If we want to get into mythology, we can go into the biblical creation stories, where the serpent was jealous of Adam and Eve and sought to bring about their downfall, as RJ seeks to do with Jane. All myths are allegories aimed at telling us some truth about ourselves or the world. The Mentalist is allegorical, and beautifully done.

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anitraward1: nothing more that I can think of right now but I can’t help but feel that there’s a connection with the name Roy Tagliaferro. Perhaps it’s too obvious and thus a dead end, as we only got to see Royston in one episode and don’t have much more to go on. @rationalgal: I agree Royston’s character is rather bland. I’ve also been looking at Cho differently. I think that with the rapid deployment team there’s more to it than possibly just a love interest for him. There are so many good ideas presented here and a part of me wants to stop the analysis and just sit back and enjoy the ride, but it’s so hard to do! :)




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