@vincegfan @me Right Way to go! All the characters should be treated with respect even if a person doesn't like the character. All of these talented actors and actresses work hard every day to present the enjoyable program of NCIS to you.
Me
November 19th, 2012 9:12 AM
Um hello? I love this show, hate the Tiva nonsense. I respect the people who can discuss, not rant and belittle those of dissenting opinions. I've made friends with people who don't see this show the same way I do. There is no one on this board or any other who has the right or authority to tell me how to express my love of this show, other than to use good manners and spell check. To quote Ziva....Man up, folks. Deal with the difficult idea that not everyone in this world sees things the same way you do. People like you are destroying the fandom, not the antis or the Tiva fans.
vincegfan
November 18th, 2012 5:59 PM
I think it is great to have a forum such as this where we can all have different ideas about the same show. That being said, I think that whether or not you like a particular character is your personal business, but be respectful of other's opinions. Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean they are not a "true fan". I happen to be a huge Tiva fan, but I don't expect everyone to have the same opinion. It's ok not to like Ziva, Tony, McGee, or anyone else on the show, but have a little respect and act like adults.
real fan
November 18th, 2012 1:32 AM
NCIS FAN,well i stand by Dani and Janet they are the real fans they wont let any of the so called fans put down ziva or anyone else on the show for that matter so keep on rocking girls your doing a great job.
NCIS Fan
November 18th, 2012 12:59 AM
I'll second Really?'s post. Dani, we've reached a sort of detente here, please, please don't get people riled up again. We'd all like to be able to participate in a reasonable, adult conversation without any drama or hysteria. I am asking, with all consideration and courtesy, that you respect that. Even the moderators will tell you that if you keep chasing people off this site, and the number of "hits" falls, then TV Fanatic loses advertisers and, in the end, we ALL lose. Either that, or this website could start blocking IPA's, and that will include those of any poster they deem to be contentious or antagonistic. Please work with us in this.
janet
November 18th, 2012 12:51 AM
@Dani hi Dani your comment is spot on,yes i know everyone has there own opinion but when they write hate comments esp about Ziva i cant keep quiet they should take there hate somewhere else.dont know if you read you know who just cant say his name anyway he said wendy and ej are gay how does one ignore these stupid comments(by the way ive got no problem with gay people)but i am going to try.
Really?
November 17th, 2012 11:48 PM
@Dani -Good grief - you think everyone has to "love all character equally" to be a worthy fan allowed to post here? Squeeing posts only? Everyone has to walk in lock step with your view of things? Grow up dear and realize that many adults actually think for themselves and have opinions which might be (dread and horror) different from yours. And adults also handle the differences without ranting, threatening. name calling, or foaming at the mouth. As for the haters you think you ran out - they likely realized trying to have in intelligent discussion here was a lost cause.
Dani
November 17th, 2012 11:05 PM
@The ORIGINAL Janet (not the wannabe imposters) Janet..don't ever worry. This board is frequented by the majority who actually LOVE the show & ALL of its characters equally. We, the "Regulars", HAVE not - and WILL not- tolerate embittered, venomous lashing out of ANY NCIS character, regardless of WHO it is. NOBODY on THIS site will get out of control and start "backflashing" to Jr. High with threats of bullying. If they do, it will be THEY who get bullied..right OUT of here - just like another Hater got "shown the door" recently. We stand by JANET, because she is a builds UP the show & its characters - not tear them down. If you cannot do the same, you WILL be called out - every.single.time.
Your Mother, etc...
November 17th, 2012 7:30 PM
Michael: Let it go. Let's not start this sh*t all over again; its done.
Michael
November 17th, 2012 5:24 PM
@Janet
How come when someone say something you don't like you call them haters or Troll but when say stuff you know going to piss people off you tell them to deal with it?
formerfan
November 17th, 2012 2:22 PM
@my way - well there's a new take on it. I think it's far more likely that they are just former fans of NCIS who aren't fans of ZCIS.
my way ------
November 17th, 2012 1:17 PM
Ive been a fan of this site for quiet a long time but never commented,i feel that i must speak up for all Ziva fans and there are many,NCIS wouldnt be NCIS without Ziva as without tony or mgee or gibbs they are a family and they go well together.they dont like Ziva thats ok but when they put her down with every comment they write then something must be wrong with them,could it be that they are not fans but planted on this site by a rival station.
Janet4
November 17th, 2012 12:43 PM
If they wrote Ziva as insultingly and unflatteringly as they write Tony, her popularity would plummet. MW is so innately talented and genuinely charismatic and funny that he can hang onto popularity with fans despite tptb obvious efforts to make sure he's portrayed as a jerk and a loser half the time. Ziva has to be constantly portrayed as wonder woman, sympathetically tragic, constantly admired, and BFF with everyone, and many fans are still bored with her.
guest
November 17th, 2012 12:22 PM
Dont know why people dont like Ziva she rocks.
janet2
November 17th, 2012 11:05 AM
Agree with sameold,sameold. Is Ziva such a weak character that they have to give us constant jealous TOny in order to convince the viewer that she is so awesome?
janet
November 17th, 2012 7:29 AM
@ keith vlasak hi keith nice comment i know we should just ignore the haters but smtimes its hard but i am going to try
Sameold,sameold
November 17th, 2012 12:13 AM
Well Sam, it seems Tony's world must now revolve around Ziva. In part 2 of Shell Shock, we'll be seeing Tony jealous about Ziva going to the opera, plus one of Ziva's famous lip wobbling moment as she recounts her sister's tragic death. Then, promised in Gone - we have super Ziva and Abby going on protection detail, with a side of - you guessed it - jealous Tony, over Ziva's" mystery man". TPTB have moved straight on to non stop promotion of the January Ziva two parter. Skipped right over Tony's one and done - which will, without a doubt feature Senior drooling over wonder Ziva, with Tony - - - - - - - - wati for it ---------Jealous!!
janet 3
November 16th, 2012 10:55 PM
@janet ignore the trolls they are not worth it.
Michael
November 16th, 2012 9:33 PM
@SAM
Last Year Christmas episode and the come back episode from Christmas as well as the 3 after that were Heavy Ziva episode for exsample in the Christmas one that had Ziva able to shoot two gun at 4 bad guys and hit all of them and yet they could not land a bullet on her. Then after that is when the brought EJ bad just to make her Gay same with Wendy making her gay too so that the only woman that can have Tony is Ziva.
SAM
November 16th, 2012 7:18 PM
I can't really say that we have had any Ziva centric episodes as of yet this season, so I can't really buy that the show is turning into ZCIS anymore than the number of episodes that featured Tony in many of the chief subplots last season turned the show into TCIS. The fact of the matter is that both the character of Ziva and the actress who plays her are quite popular with the viewing public. Cote de Pablo's Q Rating is only second to that of Pauley Perrette's. Those who dislike her and the character she plays may do so with white hot intensity. It would simply seem that their numbers are less than those who like her.
I thought this was a great episode. NCIS never disappoints.
janet2
November 16th, 2012 6:40 PM
Geeze - really janet? It's important for you to know our names? Creepy. Maybe my name is janet, Michael? Myrtle? tiva4ever? Santa Claus? What does a poster's name have to do with posting on an NCIS forum and why on earth do you think it's important to know us? Yikes!! I like the word fanwank and will use it when I see fit, thank you very much. And BTW - who exactly are you to tell posters to go away? Some kind of bully?
Alex
November 16th, 2012 6:36 PM
Janet, you walked right into that one. And I know this will make you angry with me, and I'm sorry for that, but I've read past articles of this show at this site where numerous other commenters have asked you very politely and respectfully to please be kinder in your dissent. May I suggest that you take heed? Its a difficult lesson, but we all eventually must learn it.
Keith, no threat has been made. "Your Mother" simply suggested that Janet respond to others in a less petulant and reactionary manner, something with which I wholly agree. I think the inference was that if Janet behaved in such a way at school, she would suffer unpleasant consequences.
For a show that was intended to inspire Good Will, it is clear that somewhere, something has surely gone off the rails. What a shame.
By the way Janet, my name is Alexander Kyronov. My friends call me Alex.
Surely Your Mother Raised You Better Than That
November 16th, 2012 4:33 PM
Janet: Thank you for proving my point so efficaciously.
Keith Vlasak Rank: Recurring Character
November 16th, 2012 2:34 PM
There was nothing wrong with janet's comment to Alisa. It is Alisa who is overly excited and needs to get her hate under control. The people (who really do believe they are the majority rather than a small minority) who hate and despise the character Ziva and cannot discuss the matter but only rant and call anyone who disagrees names, ARE NOW THREATENING VIOLENCE, which I assume TV Fantatic allows. Can somebody from TV FANATIC do something about the psychopaths?
Ziva: I went to Israel to bury my father. It was a moment of weakness. I felt alone. Tony: You need to talk to legal. Ziva: No I don't. Tony: My Hebrew must ...
November 19th, 2012 11:31 AM
@vincegfan @me Right Way to go! All the characters should be treated with respect even if a person doesn't like the character. All of these talented actors and actresses work hard every day to present the enjoyable program of NCIS to you.
November 19th, 2012 9:12 AM
Um hello? I love this show, hate the Tiva nonsense. I respect the people who can discuss, not rant and belittle those of dissenting opinions. I've made friends with people who don't see this show the same way I do. There is no one on this board or any other who has the right or authority to tell me how to express my love of this show, other than to use good manners and spell check. To quote Ziva....Man up, folks. Deal with the difficult idea that not everyone in this world sees things the same way you do. People like you are destroying the fandom, not the antis or the Tiva fans.
November 18th, 2012 5:59 PM
I think it is great to have a forum such as this where we can all have different ideas about the same show. That being said, I think that whether or not you like a particular character is your personal business, but be respectful of other's opinions. Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean they are not a "true fan". I happen to be a huge Tiva fan, but I don't expect everyone to have the same opinion. It's ok not to like Ziva, Tony, McGee, or anyone else on the show, but have a little respect and act like adults.
November 18th, 2012 1:32 AM
NCIS FAN,well i stand by Dani and Janet they are the real fans they wont let any of the so called fans put down ziva or anyone else on the show for that matter so keep on rocking girls your doing a great job.
November 18th, 2012 12:59 AM
I'll second Really?'s post. Dani, we've reached a sort of detente here, please, please don't get people riled up again. We'd all like to be able to participate in a reasonable, adult conversation without any drama or hysteria. I am asking, with all consideration and courtesy, that you respect that. Even the moderators will tell you that if you keep chasing people off this site, and the number of "hits" falls, then TV Fanatic loses advertisers and, in the end, we ALL lose. Either that, or this website could start blocking IPA's, and that will include those of any poster they deem to be contentious or antagonistic. Please work with us in this.
November 18th, 2012 12:51 AM
@Dani hi Dani your comment is spot on,yes i know everyone has there own opinion but when they write hate comments esp about Ziva i cant keep quiet they should take there hate somewhere else.dont know if you read you know who just cant say his name anyway he said wendy and ej are gay how does one ignore these stupid comments(by the way ive got no problem with gay people)but i am going to try.
November 17th, 2012 11:48 PM
@Dani -Good grief - you think everyone has to "love all character equally" to be a worthy fan allowed to post here? Squeeing posts only? Everyone has to walk in lock step with your view of things? Grow up dear and realize that many adults actually think for themselves and have opinions which might be (dread and horror) different from yours. And adults also handle the differences without ranting, threatening. name calling, or foaming at the mouth. As for the haters you think you ran out - they likely realized trying to have in intelligent discussion here was a lost cause.
November 17th, 2012 11:05 PM
@The ORIGINAL Janet (not the wannabe imposters) Janet..don't ever worry. This board is frequented by the majority who actually LOVE the show & ALL of its characters equally. We, the "Regulars", HAVE not - and WILL not- tolerate embittered, venomous lashing out of ANY NCIS character, regardless of WHO it is. NOBODY on THIS site will get out of control and start "backflashing" to Jr. High with threats of bullying. If they do, it will be THEY who get bullied..right OUT of here - just like another Hater got "shown the door" recently. We stand by JANET, because she is a builds UP the show & its characters - not tear them down. If you cannot do the same, you WILL be called out - every.single.time.
November 17th, 2012 7:30 PM
Michael: Let it go. Let's not start this sh*t all over again; its done.
November 17th, 2012 5:24 PM
@Janet
How come when someone say something you don't like you call them haters or Troll but when say stuff you know going to piss people off you tell them to deal with it?
November 17th, 2012 2:22 PM
@my way - well there's a new take on it. I think it's far more likely that they are just former fans of NCIS who aren't fans of ZCIS.
November 17th, 2012 1:17 PM
Ive been a fan of this site for quiet a long time but never commented,i feel that i must speak up for all Ziva fans and there are many,NCIS wouldnt be NCIS without Ziva as without tony or mgee or gibbs they are a family and they go well together.they dont like Ziva thats ok but when they put her down with every comment they write then something must be wrong with them,could it be that they are not fans but planted on this site by a rival station.
November 17th, 2012 12:43 PM
If they wrote Ziva as insultingly and unflatteringly as they write Tony, her popularity would plummet. MW is so innately talented and genuinely charismatic and funny that he can hang onto popularity with fans despite tptb obvious efforts to make sure he's portrayed as a jerk and a loser half the time. Ziva has to be constantly portrayed as wonder woman, sympathetically tragic, constantly admired, and BFF with everyone, and many fans are still bored with her.
November 17th, 2012 12:22 PM
Dont know why people dont like Ziva she rocks.
November 17th, 2012 11:05 AM
Agree with sameold,sameold. Is Ziva such a weak character that they have to give us constant jealous TOny in order to convince the viewer that she is so awesome?
November 17th, 2012 7:29 AM
@ keith vlasak hi keith nice comment i know we should just ignore the haters but smtimes its hard but i am going to try
November 17th, 2012 12:13 AM
Well Sam, it seems Tony's world must now revolve around Ziva. In part 2 of Shell Shock, we'll be seeing Tony jealous about Ziva going to the opera, plus one of Ziva's famous lip wobbling moment as she recounts her sister's tragic death. Then, promised in Gone - we have super Ziva and Abby going on protection detail, with a side of - you guessed it - jealous Tony, over Ziva's" mystery man". TPTB have moved straight on to non stop promotion of the January Ziva two parter. Skipped right over Tony's one and done - which will, without a doubt feature Senior drooling over wonder Ziva, with Tony - - - - - - - - wati for it ---------Jealous!!
November 16th, 2012 10:55 PM
@janet ignore the trolls they are not worth it.
November 16th, 2012 9:33 PM
@SAM
Last Year Christmas episode and the come back episode from Christmas as well as the 3 after that were Heavy Ziva episode for exsample in the Christmas one that had Ziva able to shoot two gun at 4 bad guys and hit all of them and yet they could not land a bullet on her. Then after that is when the brought EJ bad just to make her Gay same with Wendy making her gay too so that the only woman that can have Tony is Ziva.
November 16th, 2012 7:18 PM
I can't really say that we have had any Ziva centric episodes as of yet this season, so I can't really buy that the show is turning into ZCIS anymore than the number of episodes that featured Tony in many of the chief subplots last season turned the show into TCIS. The fact of the matter is that both the character of Ziva and the actress who plays her are quite popular with the viewing public. Cote de Pablo's Q Rating is only second to that of Pauley Perrette's. Those who dislike her and the character she plays may do so with white hot intensity. It would simply seem that their numbers are less than those who like her.
Rank: New User
November 16th, 2012 7:06 PM
I thought this was a great episode. NCIS never disappoints.
November 16th, 2012 6:40 PM
Geeze - really janet? It's important for you to know our names? Creepy. Maybe my name is janet, Michael? Myrtle? tiva4ever? Santa Claus? What does a poster's name have to do with posting on an NCIS forum and why on earth do you think it's important to know us? Yikes!! I like the word fanwank and will use it when I see fit, thank you very much. And BTW - who exactly are you to tell posters to go away? Some kind of bully?
November 16th, 2012 6:36 PM
Janet, you walked right into that one. And I know this will make you angry with me, and I'm sorry for that, but I've read past articles of this show at this site where numerous other commenters have asked you very politely and respectfully to please be kinder in your dissent. May I suggest that you take heed? Its a difficult lesson, but we all eventually must learn it.
Keith, no threat has been made. "Your Mother" simply suggested that Janet respond to others in a less petulant and reactionary manner, something with which I wholly agree. I think the inference was that if Janet behaved in such a way at school, she would suffer unpleasant consequences.
For a show that was intended to inspire Good Will, it is clear that somewhere, something has surely gone off the rails. What a shame.
By the way Janet, my name is Alexander Kyronov. My friends call me Alex.
November 16th, 2012 4:33 PM
Janet: Thank you for proving my point so efficaciously.
Rank: Recurring Character
November 16th, 2012 2:34 PM
There was nothing wrong with janet's comment to Alisa. It is Alisa who is overly excited and needs to get her hate under control. The people (who really do believe they are the majority rather than a small minority) who hate and despise the character Ziva and cannot discuss the matter but only rant and call anyone who disagrees names, ARE NOW THREATENING VIOLENCE, which I assume TV Fantatic allows. Can somebody from TV FANATIC do something about the psychopaths?