The Vampire Diaries Round Table: "Growing Pains"

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Elena is a vampire. Bonnie has lost her Grams again. Matt is feeling rather guilty and a major explosion has rocked Mystic Falls.

Did The Vampire Diaries Season 4 premiere live up to your expectations? Did Elena make the right choice? And what the heck is the deal with the now-dead Pastor?

Join staff writers Matt Richenthal, Steve Marsi, Eric Hochberger and Dan Forcella and sound off on these topics and more in this edition of The Vampire Diaries Round Table...


What was your favorite scene of the premiere?
Matt: Rebekah coming around and helping Stefan save Elena's life. She just couldn't resist the love story playing out before her eyes. It was like her personal, real-life version of The Notebook.

Steve: The scene where they explained how the heck Elena, Stefan and Rebecca got out of their cells. At least this was the one I was most looking forward to seeing before one of Ian Somerhalder's rescue dogs ate that page of the script.

Eric: Kyler drawing out his nails and threatening to rip out his own heart. Now that was bad ass. Less bad ass? Witchy Bonnie bringing back Klaus. Poor grandma. Where does a dead ghost go?

Dan: I have to go with Kyler going all Temple of Doom on himself to force Bonnie's hand. When those claws came out and he started going at his own chest, I had no idea how to react. That was some seriously gripping stuff.

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Who makes a better Klaus: Joseph Morgan or Michael Trevino?
Matt: Don't get me wrong, I loved Trevino's work - You incessant woman! Hey Mom! What's up? | permalink - but Joseph Morgan simply is Klaus. You can't replace an original Original, although I wouldn't have minded if this storyline took longer to play out. The supposed killing of Klaus and the body switch was a MAJOR deal on the Vampire Diaries Season 3 finale, and it was all tied up quickly here.

Steve: My colleague Dan Forcella, and his egregious displays of Joseph Morgan man-love, may be able to speak in more eloquent detail on this, but let's just say I missed the Rippah-smirking blood sucker.

Eric: You mean Michael Trevino saying love without an accent? I almost forgot he was supposed to be Klaus when he first showed up. Maybe he was just that good as Klaus playing Tyler.

Dan: Why, thank you for giving me the floor on this one Steve. Is this even a serious question? Joseph Morgan IS Klaus. Klaus IS Joseph Morgan. When he came back at the very end it was like I had died with ghost Grams and went straight to heaven. It was so nice to have him and his smirk back in our lives.

Scarier moment: Bonnie's nose bleeding; Rebekah getting staked; or Elena laugh-crying?
Matt: I had nightmares over Elena's mixture of emotions last night. That cackle. Those tears. Those cackle-based tears! It was absurd and creepy and sort of ridiculous, which is very likely what it must feel like to actually transform into a vampire.

Steve: Going with Bon-Bon on this one. The overuse of Ms. Bennett as a supernatural plot device has been well-documented, but she cast a spell in which she KILLED HERSELF on the spot. That's badass. Similarly, Grams' death was hauntingly messed up too. As Matt said in his review ... where does a dead dead witch go?!

Eric: Pretty sure Nina Dobrev has quite the career in horror ahead of her. Or the complete opposite of one in comedy. Because, damn, that laugh can be scary.

Dan: Yeah, I have to go with the laugh-cry if only because I had no idea what was going on.

Why did the Pastor blow himself and the Council up?
Matt: It had to be a signal of some sort. Pastors are all about higher callings and serving causes beyond themselves, right? I say Young was somehow taking one for the team of humanity and sacrificing himself to alert the world to the presence of vampires in town.

Steve: Was he somehow compelled to do that? Or was it a sacrificial plea for reinforcements from vampire hunters nationwide? Either way, I'm intrigued by this new twist in the show's overall narrative.

Eric: Duh! Because Jim Jones over there clearly gave them all a cup of vampire kool-aid before. Why else was he raiding the hospital's vampire blood bank?

Dan: He probably thought that if his plan didn't work on the first try, not only did he not deserve to live, but the rest of the innocents around him should cease to exist as well.  It's really good logic if you think about it.

Will Elena really stick with Stefan?
Matt: Will Lindsay Lohan ever get her life together? Sorry, Stelena lovers, the odds are about the same for each.

Steve: For the foreseeable future? Yes. Forever? That's an awfully long time, especially for a vampire. Damon's clearly not over her choice and sometime within the next century (or 2-3 seasons), you can bank on the love triangle's full-on resurgence.

Eric: Doubtful. You combine Elena's restored memories, Damon's hotness and the show's love of love triangles and I'm pretty sure we're seeing some more Delena this season. 

Dan: I see her staying with Stefan both in the short term and also by the time it is all said and done. Should she be with Stefan? No, didn't you hear that speech from Damon? Man, that was awesome. Quit fooling around and ship these two for us!


to hell with damon. elena is finally a vampire. she does not need anyone to fight her battles anymore. i hope she kicks ass. men feel so threatened by a powerful woman, and i hope she gives them hell. go girl vampire power... oh and to all the delena fans, elena has the same character and values as stefan, which makes them fit together perfectly. damon is a selfish bastard, and if that turns you on, well then, suckers are born everyday. if i wanted a dick for a boyfriend that would hurt and use me, then damon would be the obvious choice. i guess lust can make you go blind. elena can do so much better. oh and did i forget to mention that damon always cheats on the women he supposedly regards as his conquests.


My fav scene was Delena fight after she turned. And I loved Matt's scene with Stefan. And Rebekah. Everything Rebekah. :)


Elena will slowly start to fall in love for real with Damon this season, and by the time they finally get together, they will stay together. No more Stefan. Delena endgame.


@Miranda Wicker- Me too, I'm probably just assuming and missed a possible clue. I'm glad Joseph is back as Klaus, he makes a great villan.


i love this episode!


That laugh\cry thing was EXTRA creepy. She is not a great actress. But man oh man, am Iglad jm is bk as klaus. Stephen and HUMAN elena were interesting, only cause I wanted to hear his CONSTSANT declarations of love. He talk soooo pretty


Joseph Morgan is Klaus No question but I think the Pastor was asking about the real human blood know that the vampires steal and stuff. Irdk what he did I makes nonsense turning them all into vampires...I am guessing he was compelled to do that..And how did they get out of the cells ? It was a good episode though I enjoyed it Love Klaroline :D Can't wait for the next one :)


5/ I loved Matt, Steve, Eric and Dan answers and my answer is NO. Apart from the fact that I love Damon and Elena together for many reasons for me the idea of Elena sticking with Stefan forever is either a funny theory or a horrible truth. Don't get me wrong I love Stefan and he's a good person (vampire) but I can't see him with Elena specially not forever. She's a girl who want to enjoy her life and have fun and let's face it Stefan is not a Fun Guy and if she used to beg him to show her some dance moves as human and feel disappointed by his refusal how would she act now after becoming a vampire?!! So the only way for both of them if they want it to work out is either she sacrifice her wants and her needs or he change his way of life which is something hard if not too hard.


2/ Joseph Morgan no question. I love Michael Trevino he made a good job as Matt said but to me there is no Klaus without Joseph Morgan. He's the one who made Klaus klaus.
3/Well Bonnie's nose bleeding was scarry but Elena laugh-crying scene was horrifying I thought for a second that she lost her mind.
4/ I have no idea. I don't know if he was compelled to do that (but who would do something like that) and I can't get what he meant by "we're the beginning". Wait a minute did he meant that they are the first to go down? OMG is this the start with the weird things that would happend in MF like they've said in the spoilers.?


1/ My faverite scene for sure is the conversation between Damon & Elena after her escape. That was an amazing scene and it made me love Damon more than I already do ( A LOT BTW ) . I believe it shows Damon's character's growth who will save Elena not " becausehe can't let go" as she said but it would be for her so she will have the human life that she "wanted and deserved" as Damon said. I really faJosell in love with his words in that conversation and I loved his voice temper and his facial expression and Elena's look at him she was learning a new side of Damon that she never thought that it exist.

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The Vampire Diaries Season 4 Episode 1 Quotes

Where ever you go, Salvatore Brothers seem to follow.

Pastor Young

We all know the way. You feed or you die, there is no door #3.