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Ace

I think had Chuck been managed carefully from the writer's aspect, his evolution to be this good guy would have had more gravitas than it has now.

If you ever watch Gargoyles, and before you gawk, I highly recommend it for its great story and interesting, believable, and consistent character development (but skip the Goliath Chronicles because that's an entirely different staff) I could see Chuck evolve the way Xanatos did.

The writers that developed Xanatos took the audience into a very believable and multi-layered process that wasn't so cerebral that made Xanatos into a redemptive character despite his villany in the beginning.

Ace

@ALF

HA! I'm an accountant too! Small world, huh?

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@ALF It's because that Chuck never evolves that every time someone claims that he's 'changed', some people don't buy it.

Gossip Girl should never be compared to better source material, it's not even in the same league.

People have a right to get angry about the show and why they want to drop it, regardless of what the CW shills or the fantards think otherwise.

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Yea, I can't believe people are being yelled at for saying they're tired of the show! Though right as I'm about to stop participating because of the general nastiness, a thoughtful discussion occurs! @Ace and @Nelly thanks for your insights and reminding this viewer why I did like Chair, Dair and the show. I think we're over-intellectualizing GG, though. As it's been pointed out, literary allusions are dandy, but they're not executed well (but my degrees are in accountancy, wtf do I know? lol). The inconsistent characterization is an inevitable downside of a plot driven series. Since the conflict arises from shock devices and not internally from the characters, Chuck (for example) will NEVER evolve. The writer's would have to change their entire approach.

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People should leave, if they're being bullied because they want to stop watching, it's not worth it.

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@ALF Yes, only now it's gotten worse and worse.

I'm not surprised that there are CW plants here, maybe they should spend more effort into improving their show than stirring things up on comments.

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@Emily-I was a bit peeved to find someone put words in my mouth but we're talking about GG. On the internet. It's stupid to get worked up. @pty it is insane that people are being bullied for wanting to quit the show, no matter what their reasoning is. @Anonymous these threadsare getting scary toxic now. I didn't participate in GG fandom until S4. Have things always been this nasty? Insults are being directed at other posters/the actors themselves at it's all a wee bit nutty.

Anyone else think some of the posters that write Team __ or the portmanteau of their ship followed by 10 explanation points over and over again are just GG PR plants trying to drum up interest?

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@Nelly You mean like 1 night stands and affairs, while sneaking around?

@starkidfanforever15 Gossip Girl used to be fun and interesting.

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@Where's Waldorf They're inspired by a lot of things like Audrey Hepburn, Gone with the Wind, The End of the Affair, etc. That doesn't make it good, it only makes it worse when you're comparing it to quality classics that are actually written well unlike Gossip Girl.

@anon They used to be like that before the writers turned them into a couple that acts like they're bitter divorcees.

@BetteMary Chuck is falling into old patterns, sleeping around and having 1 night stands is what he used to do before he started to brood/pine over Blair.

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@Where's Waldorf The writers can compare their relationship to other better couples as much as they want to, Gossip Girl will always look like crap by comparison. Chuck's problems are simplistic, they're just family drama that can be found in mediocre soap operas. He's not a villain/anti-hero, he's become an overrated character who gets away with anything because the writers don't know how to develop his character properly, so he's constantly reverting back to his old brooding self. Gossip Girl has nothing on Shakespeare.




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