The Good Wife Review: Not So Graceful Comments (Page 3)
80 Comments
bigheadgirl
December 5th, 2011 5:05 PM
I am really tired of the story line with Grace and her regligious beliefs. I guess it shows how she is seraching for something because of the break-up and her parents and her life dramatically changing. But I think the 'missing Grace' story line was contrived and it served only to break up Alica and Will. But really, what other reason would she break up with Will for? Only her children. She's trying, like so many working mothers, to be the best mother and the best lawyer.
I don't think she'll go back to Peter. She's so moved on from him. I do think she will maintain a good relationship with him because he is the children's father.
I remember the end of the first season when Will called her and she told him she need a plan. Because of Eli she never got his message, but it wasn't a plan. Realistically she needs a plan, she can't afford to have just hot sex for long. And she will give up everything for her children.
I wish she had known it was Kalinda that found Grace
Sandra
December 5th, 2011 5:03 PM
Hated that Alicia and Will broke up! I love them together and wanted to see more. Hopefully this isn't realy the "end:" for them!
Agnes
December 5th, 2011 4:30 PM
Alicia splitting frm WIll is a mistake...instead the writers could have had her entertaining a split from his firm, i.e. accepting Michael J. Fox's offer, in order to separate her love life from ehr professional life. It just looks like Alicia 'used' Will and never gave the relationship he thought she'd entered into with him a chance. He no-good husband does not deserve her - they need to rethink this - show Alicia missing Will [as she told him she would when they embraced] and he mssing, yearning for her - that's the way to keep the show going. If something along the romantic lines between them is not revived, I prophesize losing loyal fans!
Shirley
December 5th, 2011 3:27 PM
When Diane said "she'll get over it" Will said "She will". The look in his eyes meant "but I'll not get over it". He wasn't going to break up with Alicia, he was taking to Kalinda about commitment, about wanting something more than work, about kids. In previous episodes he asked Alicia to introduce him to her kids and was very disappointed with her response. He wanted a real relationship with her and now he's really hurt. I don't understand Alicia. She is mother- I know, children come first- I get it. But does this mean she should sacrifice her life, go back to cheating husband that she doesn't love, break up with the men she cares for. Is this some bible idea of womens life- sacrificing everything for the family. If this is where the show is going- I hate it.
John Graydon
December 5th, 2011 3:04 PM
I HATED this episode. If Alicia goes back to Peter and leaves Will broken-hearted, then she has rocks in her head and deserves all he heartache she's just asking for.
I guess if you take a father who is a serial philanderer, and you add a mother who doesn't seem to have a single clue what she really wants, you end up with a daughter who is as totally naive, gullible, dimwitted, and stupid as Grace is. They've done a very poor job raising her.
And how idiotic that Alicia would break up with the man who loves her because she was WORKING when her idiot daughter didn't leave a message before she climbed into a car with a guy she's only seen on YouTube. How does that make sense? Maybe Peter is all she deserves after all.
Karla
December 5th, 2011 2:47 PM
I am well aware that I have been in the minority as far as Will and Alicia go but for me I have never rooted for the relationship. The only purpose it served for me in a convoluted way was to even the score with Peter. I do not think Alicia is over him and it is clear from how quickly they gravitated to each other last nite that they still have that connection. Sorry but I do not see Will as some white knight and maybe he did want Alicia in a way as the one who got away but frankly he has not shown me that he really is interested in anything more than in the moment type of relationship.....also he is not some Mr. Wonderful and that was shown to me when Diane told him Alicia would get over it and he could not even own up to who ended it/now perhaps in an upcoming episode he will but I would be very surprised.....I mean what have they really shared except hot sex?????? I mean for all his so called feelings he could not even tell Kalinda what Alicia wanted and if asked I have a feeli
legal eagle Rank: New User
December 5th, 2011 2:43 PM
Last night's episode was classic Aristotle - Deus ex Machina -the very definition of bad drama. The comments to date have been insightful, but have missed the biggest flaw of all in the drama. That is, the character of Alicia is allegedly a brilliant up and coming litigator, independent, modern woman and involved mother - who missed an illegal hacking of her messages by Eli, who was oblivious to her husband's cheating, who is the only one who does not know about her husband's abuse of power in going after Will and who obviously does not speak with her son who knows more than the above and likely about Kalinda's finding his sister. Further, as a cell phone user, can someone tell me how to "butt dial", never happened. If the Alicia character could not hold it (or her brief case) together for an hour, she is neither a good lawyer nor a good mother if she could not figure out that she should not leave her case in the hands of her opponent. Moreover, even though she and Will had allegedly
Joseph Wilson Rank: New User
December 5th, 2011 2:09 PM
Last night was the least plausible shows ever, The Good Wife seems to be suffering from sophomoric writing. I agree that I am tired of the reusing of characters. Where is Alicia's brother and that bitchy mother-in-law? The ending of Will and Alicia seemed contrived. I agree that Grace needs to be shipped off to boarding school. I am also tired of the religion angle.
I like when the show uses current events. How about a Herman Cain-like character with all sorts of sexual allegations? How about his lawyer, Lin Wood, vowing to smear women through the mud? People forget that Gloria Alred did a good job of making public the face of Cain's accusers. She certainly resulted in Meg Whitman losing the governorship of California and the affair revealed in Herman Cain's sex life.
leenokinnee Rank: Guest Star
December 5th, 2011 2:04 PM
I thought it was very telling when Alicia gave her phone to Grace's friend saying, "It's my husband." I guess I just found it a little strange that in a moment of crisis for her, even though she's spending her free time sleeping with her boss, she didn't tell the girl "It's Grace's father" but rather, referred to Peter as HER HUSBAND. I was all about Will and Alicia chemistry and sexual tension in the first two seasons, but once they started sleeping together, it just felt too much like a rebound/retaliation for Alicia. Like I've said before, it's clear to me that Alicia has a lot of respect for Will, but I'm not positive that she loves him. Her focus is her family, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy seeing her and Peter work as a team and be parents to Grace in a loving way.
Kelly
December 5th, 2011 1:41 PM
I really think it was premature to break up with Will, does it mean she will not have relationships again because she has kids? What about her? Her needs?
I loved this episode. Kalinda was great, helping without showing it, I hope Alicia and her reconcile again soon. Also, I loved Eli and Will bonding - my two favorite men on the show.
bevedwards Rank: New User
December 5th, 2011 1:38 PM
I find it hard to believe that Will and Alicia have split up, I think they have set up the idea for Diane's sake. Its all too easy for their relationship to break up, but we will wait and see. Caitlin did play a good role this episode. Dana needs to be got rid of now, she's annoying. Loved the scene with Will and Eli, (classic), and Michael J Fox. I hope Kalinda and Alicia renew their friendship.
martinelli Rank: Regular Character
December 5th, 2011 1:09 PM
I hope they never get back together again. Will is a pompous _____. Can't stand him and he certainly not as good looking as her husband.
Evelyn Thomas
December 5th, 2011 12:52 PM
I love this show. And though at times some of the things were questionable--it IS a show. I hate that will and alisha broke up--but--she had to do what was right for her family. NOT Peter--her family--meaning her kids. BUT--she handled the Mother-In-Law thing wrong--she should have slamed the door in that womans face a LONG time ago--and that woman being in the house at ANY time--no way. UGH! But glad she was busted meddling on alishas computer. I know it is always better to get along with someone if you can-but--that woman needs to be --I DONT WANT TO GO THERE. And yes--I AM an ex Mother in Law--and still know my place.
I admit I haven't seen the episode yet but going with your revelation that Grace gets herself baptized I'll butt in with the fact that I am sick and tired of religion raising its (to me, anyway) ugly head in another quality show. And I also would like it if Michael J Fox and Tim Guinee's characters would be given long walks over very short piers!
martinelli Rank: Regular Character
December 5th, 2011 12:42 PM
Oh God! There are so many things to say about this episode. I really like Michael J. Fox but his role here is a terrible one, I hate Mr. Canning.
The breaking up is not final. The chemistry and the temptation was there all the time and there always will be there. They may not see each other for a period but I hope one day they will...
Kalinda was great, she did a good job finding Grace.
Caitlin also did a good job.
Now I am crossing my fingers for Will. Just hope he can come clean.
Andrew Wiley can be annoying.
Wendy Scott-Carr ... oh God ... I hate her. I just can't see how will Wendy and Peter get along after all Peter did to her in the past ...
coco14
December 5th, 2011 12:22 PM
yes there were some contrived spots last night, but it doesn't matter to me - I love this show and the characters and they all played their roles so well last night. The scenes with Will and Alicia and then with Will and Diane were both so moving - I've been there and it was spot-on; but we all know that this is not the end for Will and Alicia - Eli as always, great - Kalinda as always - great - etc etc
Dianne
December 5th, 2011 12:07 PM
Well, there was foreshadowing when Alicia threw her black nightie in a ball in the trash. Will's dishonesty is one of many things coming up that is putting a black mark on him. Bogus going missing; good for Calinda; Getting real tired of religion and politics; lay off it for awhile.
I don't think this is the end of Will and Alicia. It was necessary right now, as Alicia clearly needed to clear out one of her "distractions" but ultimately she does love him, even if she's been trying to suppress it. And I mean I'm taking a leap here because the writers haven't given us many clues to the inner thoughts of Alicia, leaving us to guess her motivations. But the reconnection with Peter over the "crisis" was just out of a sense of relief, not an "I'm back in love with you" thing.
So we'll get the rest of the season with both Will and Alicia pining for one another so we can have another payoff at the end. But they cannot get her back with Peter -- that ship has sailed and it will look like failure if she crawls back to him.
motherof2
December 5th, 2011 12:00 PM
I think Alicia breaking up with Will reflects a thoughtful and considerate mother. When someone is a parent "kids come first" end of story. I thought Will was equally as slimy as Peter and both not deserving of Alicia's standards. I thought what was even more impressive was the friendship between Alicia and Kalinda...it was a much stronger relationship even if it was just a friendship. In this episode we are able to see the loyalty that Kalinda feels towards Alicia as she drops business at hand to find Grace...then after she finds her she instructs Grace not to tell her mother. (A selfless act) I can't wait to see what direction this show follows in future months and the best part is at the end of each episode, it leaves everyone in want of more.
betty
December 5th, 2011 11:54 AM
I agree with Melissa. I hated the ending and want Alicia to divorce Peter and go with Will. I think she eventually
will. I hope so anyway but they like to keep us guessing. That keeps the TV audience watching. This is one of
my favorite shows and I don't have many.
Tina
December 5th, 2011 11:47 AM
I stopped watching TGW once Alicia became invloved with Will. Last night was the first night this season I watched. I thought it was hypocritical of Alicia to have an affair while still married. I did not see how that made her different then Peter. Divorce Peter and then move on with Will. I truely believe that Alicia loves Peter and wants to be with him, but not in the same capacity as before(stay at home mom). We have to remember that Will and Alicia where old college love interest, she chose to marry Peter. I did however, think the plot of the missing grace was a bit short lived. I thought it would have lasted longer. Granted I will continue to watch the show even if she does not get Peter, but divorces and then starts a relationship with Will. But at that Point where would the show go from there.which more and likely they want because the star who plays peter is a guest role.
aspertame
December 5th, 2011 11:33 AM
Up to now, Will has been the rebound guy, and barely that, with Alicia still not ready to make her separation from Peter public. I think the writers are looking at their current affair as doomed because of these factors. Which. Can. Change. Alicia is much stronger extricating herself from her marriage if she is doing so on her own and not "because" of a new love interest. Seems likely that there is every hope for Will and Alicia, but for the moment the only important question is one of whether she is ready to truly and formally end it with Peter. (And not everyone does - take Hillary Clinton as one RL inspiration for this show - what the former Prez and First Lady now have, if less than a marriage, is clearly more than something easily put aside to allow for greater personal freedoms -- to remarry, be publicly accepted as having a new partner, etc.)
allie701 Rank: Guest Star
December 5th, 2011 11:30 AM
I don't think anyone has mentioned how Will took credit for the break up, leading Diane to believe that he had taken one for the team, when in fact it was Alicia's idea. When Diane said, "She'll get over it," and Will agreed, I thought it was quite poignant because, of course, the real question is whether Will does.
Veronica: Do you love my daughter? Will: I'm sorry? Veronica: Because if you do it's time to stop being polite about it, You have a window, but it's closing....
December 5th, 2011 5:05 PM
I am really tired of the story line with Grace and her regligious beliefs. I guess it shows how she is seraching for something because of the break-up and her parents and her life dramatically changing. But I think the 'missing Grace' story line was contrived and it served only to break up Alica and Will. But really, what other reason would she break up with Will for? Only her children. She's trying, like so many working mothers, to be the best mother and the best lawyer.
I don't think she'll go back to Peter. She's so moved on from him. I do think she will maintain a good relationship with him because he is the children's father.
I remember the end of the first season when Will called her and she told him she need a plan. Because of Eli she never got his message, but it wasn't a plan. Realistically she needs a plan, she can't afford to have just hot sex for long. And she will give up everything for her children.
I wish she had known it was Kalinda that found Grace
December 5th, 2011 5:03 PM
Hated that Alicia and Will broke up! I love them together and wanted to see more. Hopefully this isn't realy the "end:" for them!
December 5th, 2011 4:30 PM
Alicia splitting frm WIll is a mistake...instead the writers could have had her entertaining a split from his firm, i.e. accepting Michael J. Fox's offer, in order to separate her love life from ehr professional life. It just looks like Alicia 'used' Will and never gave the relationship he thought she'd entered into with him a chance. He no-good husband does not deserve her - they need to rethink this - show Alicia missing Will [as she told him she would when they embraced] and he mssing, yearning for her - that's the way to keep the show going. If something along the romantic lines between them is not revived, I prophesize losing loyal fans!
December 5th, 2011 3:27 PM
When Diane said "she'll get over it" Will said "She will". The look in his eyes meant "but I'll not get over it". He wasn't going to break up with Alicia, he was taking to Kalinda about commitment, about wanting something more than work, about kids. In previous episodes he asked Alicia to introduce him to her kids and was very disappointed with her response. He wanted a real relationship with her and now he's really hurt. I don't understand Alicia. She is mother- I know, children come first- I get it. But does this mean she should sacrifice her life, go back to cheating husband that she doesn't love, break up with the men she cares for. Is this some bible idea of womens life- sacrificing everything for the family. If this is where the show is going- I hate it.
December 5th, 2011 3:04 PM
I HATED this episode. If Alicia goes back to Peter and leaves Will broken-hearted, then she has rocks in her head and deserves all he heartache she's just asking for.
I guess if you take a father who is a serial philanderer, and you add a mother who doesn't seem to have a single clue what she really wants, you end up with a daughter who is as totally naive, gullible, dimwitted, and stupid as Grace is. They've done a very poor job raising her.
And how idiotic that Alicia would break up with the man who loves her because she was WORKING when her idiot daughter didn't leave a message before she climbed into a car with a guy she's only seen on YouTube. How does that make sense? Maybe Peter is all she deserves after all.
December 5th, 2011 2:47 PM
I am well aware that I have been in the minority as far as Will and Alicia go but for me I have never rooted for the relationship. The only purpose it served for me in a convoluted way was to even the score with Peter. I do not think Alicia is over him and it is clear from how quickly they gravitated to each other last nite that they still have that connection. Sorry but I do not see Will as some white knight and maybe he did want Alicia in a way as the one who got away but frankly he has not shown me that he really is interested in anything more than in the moment type of relationship.....also he is not some Mr. Wonderful and that was shown to me when Diane told him Alicia would get over it and he could not even own up to who ended it/now perhaps in an upcoming episode he will but I would be very surprised.....I mean what have they really shared except hot sex?????? I mean for all his so called feelings he could not even tell Kalinda what Alicia wanted and if asked I have a feeli
Rank: New User
December 5th, 2011 2:43 PM
Last night's episode was classic Aristotle - Deus ex Machina -the very definition of bad drama. The comments to date have been insightful, but have missed the biggest flaw of all in the drama. That is, the character of Alicia is allegedly a brilliant up and coming litigator, independent, modern woman and involved mother - who missed an illegal hacking of her messages by Eli, who was oblivious to her husband's cheating, who is the only one who does not know about her husband's abuse of power in going after Will and who obviously does not speak with her son who knows more than the above and likely about Kalinda's finding his sister. Further, as a cell phone user, can someone tell me how to "butt dial", never happened. If the Alicia character could not hold it (or her brief case) together for an hour, she is neither a good lawyer nor a good mother if she could not figure out that she should not leave her case in the hands of her opponent. Moreover, even though she and Will had allegedly
Rank: New User
December 5th, 2011 2:09 PM
Last night was the least plausible shows ever, The Good Wife seems to be suffering from sophomoric writing. I agree that I am tired of the reusing of characters. Where is Alicia's brother and that bitchy mother-in-law? The ending of Will and Alicia seemed contrived. I agree that Grace needs to be shipped off to boarding school. I am also tired of the religion angle.
I like when the show uses current events. How about a Herman Cain-like character with all sorts of sexual allegations? How about his lawyer, Lin Wood, vowing to smear women through the mud? People forget that Gloria Alred did a good job of making public the face of Cain's accusers. She certainly resulted in Meg Whitman losing the governorship of California and the affair revealed in Herman Cain's sex life.
Rank: Guest Star
December 5th, 2011 2:04 PM
I thought it was very telling when Alicia gave her phone to Grace's friend saying, "It's my husband." I guess I just found it a little strange that in a moment of crisis for her, even though she's spending her free time sleeping with her boss, she didn't tell the girl "It's Grace's father" but rather, referred to Peter as HER HUSBAND. I was all about Will and Alicia chemistry and sexual tension in the first two seasons, but once they started sleeping together, it just felt too much like a rebound/retaliation for Alicia. Like I've said before, it's clear to me that Alicia has a lot of respect for Will, but I'm not positive that she loves him. Her focus is her family, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy seeing her and Peter work as a team and be parents to Grace in a loving way.
December 5th, 2011 1:41 PM
I really think it was premature to break up with Will, does it mean she will not have relationships again because she has kids? What about her? Her needs?
I loved this episode. Kalinda was great, helping without showing it, I hope Alicia and her reconcile again soon. Also, I loved Eli and Will bonding - my two favorite men on the show.
Rank: New User
December 5th, 2011 1:38 PM
I find it hard to believe that Will and Alicia have split up, I think they have set up the idea for Diane's sake. Its all too easy for their relationship to break up, but we will wait and see. Caitlin did play a good role this episode. Dana needs to be got rid of now, she's annoying. Loved the scene with Will and Eli, (classic), and Michael J Fox. I hope Kalinda and Alicia renew their friendship.
Rank: Regular Character
December 5th, 2011 1:09 PM
@Evelyn Thomas - I totally agree with you :)
Rank: Extra
December 5th, 2011 1:07 PM
I hope they never get back together again. Will is a pompous _____. Can't stand him and he certainly not as good looking as her husband.
December 5th, 2011 12:52 PM
I love this show. And though at times some of the things were questionable--it IS a show. I hate that will and alisha broke up--but--she had to do what was right for her family. NOT Peter--her family--meaning her kids. BUT--she handled the Mother-In-Law thing wrong--she should have slamed the door in that womans face a LONG time ago--and that woman being in the house at ANY time--no way. UGH! But glad she was busted meddling on alishas computer. I know it is always better to get along with someone if you can-but--that woman needs to be --I DONT WANT TO GO THERE. And yes--I AM an ex Mother in Law--and still know my place.
Rank: Extra
December 5th, 2011 12:45 PM
I admit I haven't seen the episode yet but going with your revelation that Grace gets herself baptized I'll butt in with the fact that I am sick and tired of religion raising its (to me, anyway) ugly head in another quality show. And I also would like it if Michael J Fox and Tim Guinee's characters would be given long walks over very short piers!
Rank: Regular Character
December 5th, 2011 12:42 PM
Oh God! There are so many things to say about this episode. I really like Michael J. Fox but his role here is a terrible one, I hate Mr. Canning.
The breaking up is not final. The chemistry and the temptation was there all the time and there always will be there. They may not see each other for a period but I hope one day they will...
Kalinda was great, she did a good job finding Grace.
Caitlin also did a good job.
Now I am crossing my fingers for Will. Just hope he can come clean.
Andrew Wiley can be annoying.
Wendy Scott-Carr ... oh God ... I hate her. I just can't see how will Wendy and Peter get along after all Peter did to her in the past ...
December 5th, 2011 12:22 PM
yes there were some contrived spots last night, but it doesn't matter to me - I love this show and the characters and they all played their roles so well last night. The scenes with Will and Alicia and then with Will and Diane were both so moving - I've been there and it was spot-on; but we all know that this is not the end for Will and Alicia - Eli as always, great - Kalinda as always - great - etc etc
December 5th, 2011 12:07 PM
Well, there was foreshadowing when Alicia threw her black nightie in a ball in the trash. Will's dishonesty is one of many things coming up that is putting a black mark on him. Bogus going missing; good for Calinda; Getting real tired of religion and politics; lay off it for awhile.
Rank: Regular Character
December 5th, 2011 12:04 PM
Grace needs to be shipped off to boarding school.
December 5th, 2011 12:02 PM
I don't think this is the end of Will and Alicia. It was necessary right now, as Alicia clearly needed to clear out one of her "distractions" but ultimately she does love him, even if she's been trying to suppress it. And I mean I'm taking a leap here because the writers haven't given us many clues to the inner thoughts of Alicia, leaving us to guess her motivations. But the reconnection with Peter over the "crisis" was just out of a sense of relief, not an "I'm back in love with you" thing.
So we'll get the rest of the season with both Will and Alicia pining for one another so we can have another payoff at the end. But they cannot get her back with Peter -- that ship has sailed and it will look like failure if she crawls back to him.
December 5th, 2011 12:00 PM
I think Alicia breaking up with Will reflects a thoughtful and considerate mother. When someone is a parent "kids come first" end of story. I thought Will was equally as slimy as Peter and both not deserving of Alicia's standards. I thought what was even more impressive was the friendship between Alicia and Kalinda...it was a much stronger relationship even if it was just a friendship. In this episode we are able to see the loyalty that Kalinda feels towards Alicia as she drops business at hand to find Grace...then after she finds her she instructs Grace not to tell her mother. (A selfless act) I can't wait to see what direction this show follows in future months and the best part is at the end of each episode, it leaves everyone in want of more.
December 5th, 2011 11:54 AM
I agree with Melissa. I hated the ending and want Alicia to divorce Peter and go with Will. I think she eventually
will. I hope so anyway but they like to keep us guessing. That keeps the TV audience watching. This is one of
my favorite shows and I don't have many.
December 5th, 2011 11:47 AM
I stopped watching TGW once Alicia became invloved with Will. Last night was the first night this season I watched. I thought it was hypocritical of Alicia to have an affair while still married. I did not see how that made her different then Peter. Divorce Peter and then move on with Will. I truely believe that Alicia loves Peter and wants to be with him, but not in the same capacity as before(stay at home mom). We have to remember that Will and Alicia where old college love interest, she chose to marry Peter. I did however, think the plot of the missing grace was a bit short lived. I thought it would have lasted longer. Granted I will continue to watch the show even if she does not get Peter, but divorces and then starts a relationship with Will. But at that Point where would the show go from there.which more and likely they want because the star who plays peter is a guest role.
December 5th, 2011 11:33 AM
Up to now, Will has been the rebound guy, and barely that, with Alicia still not ready to make her separation from Peter public. I think the writers are looking at their current affair as doomed because of these factors. Which. Can. Change. Alicia is much stronger extricating herself from her marriage if she is doing so on her own and not "because" of a new love interest. Seems likely that there is every hope for Will and Alicia, but for the moment the only important question is one of whether she is ready to truly and formally end it with Peter. (And not everyone does - take Hillary Clinton as one RL inspiration for this show - what the former Prez and First Lady now have, if less than a marriage, is clearly more than something easily put aside to allow for greater personal freedoms -- to remarry, be publicly accepted as having a new partner, etc.)
Rank: Guest Star
December 5th, 2011 11:30 AM
I don't think anyone has mentioned how Will took credit for the break up, leading Diane to believe that he had taken one for the team, when in fact it was Alicia's idea. When Diane said, "She'll get over it," and Will agreed, I thought it was quite poignant because, of course, the real question is whether Will does.