Gossip Girl Round Table: "Riding in Town Cars With Boys"

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Welcome to our weekly Gossip Girl Round Table discussion! Below, our panel breaks down the midseason finale (see our official review from last night) of our favorite show in even greater detail.

Below, TVF CEO Eric Hochberger (Gossip Guy) and managing editor Steve Marsi (Mister Meester) join writers Courtney Morrison and Leigh Raines to discuss "Riding in Town Cars With Boys."

Weigh in with your take on the following topics after reading ours!

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1. What was your favorite quote from the episode?

Courtney:If we are going by a quote, then it's Chuck with "These stories are invented to sell papers to women who collect ceramic cats." Cracked up at this because you know there are tons of old ladies reading those celebrity gossip papers with the most unrealistic stories. If we are going by exchange, then hands down Blair and Chuck in the back room of Chivy's party. Runner up: Lily and Chuck. 

Leigh: With so much emotional dialogue, I need to inject some humor into this whole situation. Chuck about Nate's rejection of Bloomberg. "That's a bold move Nathaniel, I'm almost aroused." Classic bromance.

Steve: Lily telling Chuck she loves him like her own son. Definitely got a little dusty in here. I also loved Dan and Serena's passive-aggressive bickering at the breakfast table, and everything Dair - not the romance some fans wanted, but it was great seeing her come to Brooklyn.

Eric: Going to give it up to Dorota. As much as I want to credit her screaming in Polish at the paparazzi, I can't possibly begin to translate. So in second place, I loved her magic spell to win Louis back. Take note Secret Circle. You may have to invite Dorota to join.

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2. What was your general take on the midseason finale, and the first half of Season 5?

Courtney: There were some bumps in the road of Season 5 so far, but the past several episodes are making up for that. Blair's friendship with Dan has been a highlight, her relationship with Louis... not so much. I am over the character and the story. Time to get rid of Louis after the wedding that hopefully will never take place. The Chivy arc has been front and center and the only time it is enjoyable is with Nate in the picture. The midseason finale was slow to start and even predictable, but it was definitely enjoyable. The Chair moments, the Dair moments, even Rufus got a small piece of a story. My biggest issue with the season so far is Blair's wardrobe. I understand she is pregnant and trying to hide a baby bump. But that does not mean she needs to wear hidious frumpy frocks. Queen B is too good for that.

Leigh: Last night was just too emotional even though I expected it. I also had a visceral reaction to Ivy and Max. I hope that Eric's prediction for the second half of Season 5 is on point. I feel like the NJBC + Dan is making a comeback, as evidenced by Serena, Nate and Dan vowing to go up against Gossip Girl. I think the writers are doing a good job at keeping up the suspense, but despite the first few episodes of the season, this show has just gotten majorly depressing.

Steve: I've generally enjoyed this season. There have been plenty of minor complaints I've touched on in reviews over the last 10 weeks, but for the most part I've been invested in the storylines and entertained by the characters. This royal wedding / 100th episode spectacular had better live up to the hype.

Eric: Season 5 started off strong with the royal wedding and Inside, but then at some point became the Diana and Chivy show. I think Max's desperate attempts to tell anyone who would listen exemplifies how desperate the storyline became in general. I'm positive Chair fans will enjoy the second half of Season 5. Throw in some Derena and a little Spectator war against Gossip Girl and we might finish strong.

3. The car crash: Cliffhanging shocker or predictable copout?

Courtney: Both. I expected Blair to be the one seriously injured, not Chuck. But it is definitely a cop out on the baby situation.

Leigh: Copout. I don't think they needed to go the Princess Diana route. I get why they did it, but it wasn't in good taste. And since we know Chuck is going to live, are they really going to go the amnesia route? Come on. How many near death experiences does the kid need to have?

Steve: It really is both. Such a cheap way out in that Blair's pregnancy will simply go away, and that we know Chuck won't die. But definitely a surprise in that Ivy, Trip, Max, Diana and Jack were or will now become involved in the crash and its aftermath. That was woven together surprisingly well.

Eric: Copout. I get that it's supposed to mimic the paparazzi and Prince Diana, but come on, do you really need to force anything more between at Chair at this point for the sake of a cliffhanger? Why don't you pick on some other characters sometime.

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4. Dan or Nate: Who was more The Man this week?

Courtney: Can I be a total girl about it and pick both? Dan is a selfless, loyal friend to Blair which in return makes him The Man. But Nate has morals: he never sent in a blast to GG, he is always telling the truth, he looks out for his friends. Therefore, The Man. But... if I'm picking one, The Man this week is most definitely Lonely Boy. Who said chivalry is dead?

Leigh: Both Dan and Nate were major studs this week. Nate's progression into this suit wearing, strong guy with good morals, makes him even harder to resist. BUT Dan was just... incredible and selfless and caring and wonderful this week. Should I keep gushing?

Steve: I expect Dan to be The Man. Dan the Man, it even rhymes. So Nate gets my vote after this week and last. To steal the Grandfather's line, we've always loved him, but now we respect him too.

Eric: Obvs, Lonely Boy. Nothing says love like putting someone else's happiness ahead of your own. Besides, I'm pretty sure the Chair fans would kill me if I picked any other option.

5. Most surprising side plot: Chivy outing herself, Trip turning on his famous family, or Lily and Rufus having meaningful dialogue?

Courtney: Lily and Rufus used to have meaningful dialogue in earlier seasons, and Trip turning on his famous family doesn't really surprise me... there is always one in every family. So I am going with Chivy outing herself. We got teased with Diana outing her, then Max telling her family, then telling Nate. And in just 5 seconds, she ratted herself out. Most surprising? It was to Rufus.

Leigh: All three were surprising, but Tripp having Max cut the brakes to the car was insane. He's actually that desperate that he would risk killing his cousin? That's scary and psychotic.

Steve: Definitely Trip. Chives' guilt was nearing critical mass for awhile, so it made sense that indirectly causing the accident made her spill the beans. We all know Rufus and Lily can be strong supporting characters if given the chance. Trip, though? Who saw him playing such a scandalous role in all this!?

Eric: Welcome back Lily and Rufus! Now I remember why you're the only parents that stuck around as cast members. You're so the Kirsten and Sandy Cohen of Gossip Girl when you want to be. Speaking of sticking around as cast members, does this mean we can say goodbye to the Chivy show?

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6. How the heck do Jack and Diana know each other?

Courtney: I am going with the idea that Diana is related to the Bassholes somehow. Maybe Chuck's mother's sister? Who knows but whenever Jack comes to play, you know it's about to get scandalous. Plus, Chuck is really the only one Diana hasn't interacted with one on one. Hmmm ...

Leigh: Diana is a Bass. She will have to donate blood to save Chuck. But why did she say that Jack shouldn't thank her? That was the part I couldn't crack.

Steve: Wow, good call Leigh. Let me know when you crack the rest!

Eric: I can't keep saying / predicting it anymore. Diana is clearly related to the Bassholes. I'm think I may want to revise my answer of the real mom and copy Courtney's aunt guess. Either way, daaaamn that family has some good looks.

7. Share your predictions for the January 16 return.

Courtney: Blair will be okay, baby will not. Chuck will be touch and go until he wakes up looking for Blair. Louis is going to be angry that she was with Chuck in the car. It will be about halfway through until someone notices Chivy is gone and then Rufus will spill the beans. Dan will be by Blair's bedside and Nate will look extremely hot in a three-piece suit. Hopefully this will mark the return of Jack Bass.

Leigh: Chuck will live, but possibly have amnesia. Maybe Blair goes nuts out of guilt? I'm thinking maybe the Grimaldi family blackmails Blair into going through with her wedding to Louis. Let's get some old school GG back up in here!

Steve: Dan will be there for Blair and Chuck, and Serena will be there for Dan. Chuck will have near-death experience flashbacks and epiphanies. Nate will begin waging war against Gossip Girl. Louis will be boring. Max will call Ivy long distance and refer to her as white trash.

Eric: I'm going to pick the most obvious prediction: Chuck survives. And I really hope the writers don't bring back that whole amnesia thing from his gunshot wound. Or just repeat my guess of last week that Blair loses the baby. That's still on the table.

What do you think? Sound off in the comments!

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And it WAS abuse that happen between Blair & Chuck last season, just shut the fuck up about it. Her panic stricken face and that she run fast away from there says it all. I don't give a damn what the writters and producers said or wrote after that, I have eyes and common sense to see what happened.

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if this were a chick flick with a plot from this season and half of last season, we would all be cheering for Dan & Blair and no one can deny that fact. So Blair & Dan will happen next year, so just deal with it.

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@Kay Applause! well said.

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@pty Realistic or not, I don't want Chuck& Blair and Dan& Serena.
I'm not stuck in 2007.
I want more from the shows I watch- good writing and quality.
You may be content with soaps and telenovelas as you repeatedly mention in your comments but I expect more.
So please, don't use 'WE' when you mean "I".
Thank you.

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Diana said "don't thank me" because she meant thank Nate for her being cooperative

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I'm tired of this abuse claim, for the last time he wasn't trying to hit her or rape her in 4x20. As for the emotial rollercoaster between the 2 of them, both have been participant in it, of course Chuck was worst, nobody can deny it. The thing is, they both share a darknest that usually allows them to comprehend where the other was comming from, and when they can't there is still the strength of the love that bonds them. In the cases where actions were beyond comprehension, which was the case of Chuck's worst acts, his POV and apology were necessary and long overdue. Some may feel the love is tainted by all this, but not all of us feel that way, and they certainly don't feel that way. We can clearly see they are not bad people per se, they have good and bad inside of them, and pretend otherwise is ridiculous. I agree in real life this would be far more troublesome, then again I doubt there is a person in real life that has gone through everything these 2 have gone through. But then again, many of us don't watch this show looking for characters that portray real life situations. Otherwise we would be watching other shows. This show never claimed to be realistic, is true is has gone overboard with the hightened reality thing but overall is still true we want to see certain results at the end of the show and that doesn't mean we would pursue such results in real life for ourselves or that we would encourage that kind of behaviour in real life. So at the end of the day we want Chuck with Blair and Dan with Serena, is not like this is a reality show. It seems there is people that can't comprehend that simple concept.

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Dorota said in Polish : " Uciekaj stąd ! Ty ! Co sobie wyobrażasz ?! Idź stąd ! Ja Ci dam ! Ja Ci dam ! Zobaczysz ! " - which in Polish means : " Get out of here ! You ! What do you think ?! Go away ! I will show ! I will show you ! You will see ! "
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I've got $10 on Louis sneaking into Chuck's hospital room to try to snuff him out via pillow, drug overdose, or unplugging his machines.

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[quote]If Derena are truly endgame (which i think they are) my theory is that Rufus or Lilly will die...as much as i love them so much, the writers will probably go for that with the drama. maybe a good (but EXTREMELY sad) storyline would be Rufus having cancer and his advice to Dan being that Serena was always meant for him? DUNNN HATE, ONLY AN IDEA :s I LOVE RUFUSSSSSSSS[/quote] first: rufly will not die. they are the mainparents and a important part from the tv show. and matt and kelly have no plans to leaving the show. and the writer love both too. so its answered.
and second: rufus is not a dan and serena lover. he is more the dan and blair lover now. but i think lily is still team dan and serena..
so it could become interesting lol

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@kay, well said.

Gossip Girl Season 5 Episode 10 Quotes

Lily: Just because Carol made a mockery of her own debut does not mean Charlie should be cheated out of the experience.
Rufus: Yeah, she hired Karen Finley to go in her place and when Carol's name was called, Karen walks out wearing nothing but chocolate and a pillbox hat.
Lily: Now I'm a Karen Finley fan, but it was a bit much. We were barred from the Plaza for years.

Apologies have been made and the security breach fixed. But two weeks later, still not one tip. Apparently no on can hold a grudge like an Upper East Sider. And no one can lie like one either.

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