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PEOPLE, THE ICE TRUCK KILLER HAND IS NOT REAL, ITS MADE OF WAX!!
Rudy made it for Dexter to remind him of their Mother in the first season. Does anyone remember this?
I really thought that Dex was going to lose it when he had blood all over him like he did as a child..wish they would have shown him come a bit undone there..
ALso liked the twist with the hand at the interns house.. I have had a weird feeling that something bad is going to happen to Batista's sister for a while now. Really want to see what happens with this intern guy. Could he be a killer?
Did NOT see the Gellar twist coming..very reminisent of "Fight Club" if you ask me..
@Watch&Tell Excellent point! Now that you mention it, seeing how Dexter is going to deal with this is what I'm looking forward to most.
Hey Matt,I'm surprised that you are so angry and disappointed about this "revelation". The way I see it,the shocker is not for the viewers at all. I could also see where the story was headed weeks ago, and I was not surprised when the last scene was shown. But isn't the point to finally build the season climax and see how Dexter will react when he found out the truth? The surprise was for Dexter, and not for you.
@Jordana, How were these "clues"? Honestly, before I started catching up with reviews online, I actually believed the season was ABOUT Travis' schizophrenia and Dexter being unaware of it. When I started reading the reviews, I saw that people actually believed this was only "speculation". But it was not speculation. There weren't little hints or clues... it was ridiculously obvious.
I I feel pity for the writers. It is very sad and even pathetic that they think they were fooling anyone with this storyline. If you watch Homeland right after Dexter, you know there DEFINITELY is a way to fool your audience, but the Dexter writers failed at it.
The episode's ending was made to feel like an epic twist, but it would have been just as suspenseful to end the show with the big reveal that Dexter is a serial killer. What? Everyone already knows that? Are you sure? Because maybe that's still speculation in some viewers' minds.
One person's lazy writing is another's surpise. I did not see this coming, mostly because EJO's wooden acting method gives that much away in every character he plays. (Facebook post-joke: Olmos'acting method summed up in Walking Dead's season finale "Pretty Much Dead Already.") OTOH, I knew that Bruce Willis was (spoiler alert) *dead* in the dreadful "Sixth Sense" before the opening credits had stopped rolling.
I was insufferable then (suffering numerous gouges to the ribs to keep me from spilling THE OBVIOUS). You get to be insufferable now.
Besides, I am far more interested in Deb waking up to who Dexter is than this DDK nonsense. The Nebraska ep was the low point, IMO.
Writing Problems: Dexter getting sloppy with his killings. Killing in public Ex. Murder at the ocean. How did he get rid of the body? This is the most recent example but more sloppiness has resided. Walking around with Travis at the college and not be seen on a video camera. Did Travis pull the fire alarm to stop the elevator? Gellar watching Travis have sex with the whore of Babylon. Travis never acknowledged Gellar so how would we know he was imagining him, which is unfair writing. Dexter getting a blow job from a stranger, remember he said sex seemed undignified. The ice truck killers hand, for some strange reason one of the interns stole it and then the other intern purchased it off the internet, are their fetishes linked in some way? These are just some of the problems I'm starting to have with Dexter. Oh yeah and Quinn, get over it!
I have been a Dexter fan since season 1 but please I plead to the writers don't make Dexter someone who is invisible and cant get ca
Funny. We've been a few weeks behind on episodes, just catching up last night. So I haven't followed any recaps or speculation online.
As a result, I genuinely had no idea that Gellar was not a real person. Honest. The only odd feeling I got was when Dexter and Hanks finally went back to the church and there were some odd shots where Dexter had his back turned to Hanks' character but you couldn't quite make out what he was doing.
In hindsight, it could have been predictable, but I certainly didn't do so (although I did think it was very odd that none of those people in the nightclub recognized a serial killer whose face was plastered on the front page of the paper right outside...). And I don't mind that I watched all those imaginary scenes.
Funny that the Sixth Sense was brought up as a comparison, which I thought of as well watching the last episode. But unlike Matt, apparently, I knew Bruce Willis' character was dead all along. I haven't seen many Shalaman movies, an
Just because one can predict the ending doesn't make it poor storytelling. Anyone who spends enough time thinking about the plot and reading the boards would predict this ending. It also helps that we have precedents like the 6th sense or the Fight club. I agree with Scott. The average viewer watching the show casually might not necessarily predict the ending. It doesn't make them "dumb". It just means they have better things to do with their time than obsess over a show.
A good storyteller will leave enough clues for the viewer to figure things out if they pay enough attention. I thought the script was well played and I liked the fact that the actors were not told about the conclusion (although they may have figured it out too...). I've watched murder mysteries where the viewers know the killer, and the suspense lies in wandering when the protagonist will find out. I don't see the big deal. I'm still enjoying Dexter. Plus I'm sure most people didn't expect to see the "hand" in the
Mur - Am I the only person shocked by the Computer wiz turning out to own a human hand? Anyone?" - Thank you!! I wondered if anyone else had ANYTHING else to say about this episode besides the I-knew or I-didn't-know the Gellar thing. Personally, I saw it coming, but thought it was done pretty well - obviously, or there wouldn't be such a debate about it.
A couple of thoughts:
First - I agree that this is NOT the best "review" I've ever read. But I can understand how Matt may have just been reacting to his obvious disappointment in that plot point. Sometimes one idea can just make you obsess - I've done it myself on a college paper, so I get this, but I think there are a LOT of things in this episode that haven't even been mentioned, like...
How AWESOME was that Carrie-esqe blood-bath scene? Even though you felt it coming, it was still shocking and gruesome! And was it just me, or did Dex look just a bit giddy as well as shocked? As usual, MCH's performace is subtle and
When was Gellar killed? I'm still holding onto a spiderweb-thin rope that Gellar has not been dead this entire time. Travis could have killed him only hours before Dexter found his body in the freezer. Call it naivete on my part (or don't pull any punches and call it idiocy). 99 percent of me says Gellar has been dead the entire season. I just find it inconceivable -and insulting- that it would be so damn obvious. Was Dexter trapped in that elevator long enough for Travis to have incapacitated professor
Casey and hide the body?
Speaking of Professor Casey, I found it funny when Dexter thought to himself how full of himself the evolution elicitor, Casey seemed. Casey is tame compared to one of my favorite authors, Richard Dawkins.
The fact that Louis the intern bought that amputated arm however was a nice twist.
Watching Batista struggling to keep a strait face in the house scene with Quinn was hilarious.
I desagree with this review. I haven't read any other reviews or seen any spoilers and, though I had the feeling that Travis was the real killer somehow, I did't espected Gellar's being dead. OK this is being a lower interesting season for me, mostly 'cause all God stuff and thinking. Moreover, Dexter is acting way too careless. There are 3 living people who know he is a killer, he goes around no matter people can see him doing "weird" things. He killed Nick in a beach!! How did he carry the body to his car without anyone seing him? Two seasons ago the writers tried to tell us he was losing control because he had to take care of his family, but now that he has to be there for Harrison I'd espected him to be even more careful than ever.
I think it should be worth noticing how the Ice Truck Killer is getting around in this. The intern with the forgettable name appears to be having the hand with the painted fingernails. This is shown in the same episode where Dexter explicitly mentions: "It looks like DDK took a page out of the ITK's book", with the blood and everything. I think it's not completely unlikely to see Travis and the intern working together in... some form.
Matt, I totally understand your point of view, but… Well let's just agree to disagree a bit. I wasn't really suprised by this twist either. Few episodes ago I said to my sister (we always watch the show together): "why Gellar is just walking around town when his face is all over newspapers and television?". Later that night, as I was lying in my bed, I thought to myself: "because he's not really there, that's why". I kind of liked Travis, so I tried to convince myself my theory was stupid. But the idea was already planted in my brain and when the twist came I was like: "jeah, I saw it coming".
But that doesn't mean I didn't like it. Ok, maybe it was way easier to predict than "The Sixth Sense" ending (although I was like 15 when I first saw it, ten years and hundreds of movies later it's easier to see these things coming). I think the whole split personality thing is great. It actually reminds me more of "Fight Club" than "The Sixth Sense". I like the idea of a villain who is not
I never read anything about upcoming episodes or full blown discussions about possible outcomes of story lines because whats the point? it can reveal things id rather wait to be revealed for me. So after the twist in 'get gellar' it lead me to read some reviews on the episode.
I was actually shocked to find that Gellar had been a figment of Travis' imagination for so long! Just things like it appeared Gellar had killed Travis' sister, plus gellars interaction with anyone besides travis was so minimal it was never obvious he wasnt really there.
was genuinely surprised by the twist!
additionally, bollanoola's point about holly hearing two distinct voices (old man and young man) is intriguing. it seems obvious from the trailer and promos for next week that we're to assume gellar has been dead throughout most/all of this season. but holly's account brings that into question.
unless that's just a messy story point due to lazy writing...which WOULD actually be a new level lazy writing if it turns out to be true.
As a fan, I imagine that this was a difficult review, let's faced, it was obvious that Gellar was imaginary, in a episode like this, "the big reveal" I expect a twist that would let me thinking "wtf just happened?!", not "Yes, go down there, find Gellar dead and get trapped."
It's been obvious for too long... Dexter is an amazing show, and for that same reason, we always expect more and more from it, NEVER a plot like this one, it's disappointing. So, stop bashing the reviewer, and think about what Dexter used to be.
That being said, there were a few things that got my interest, the hand on Louis home and the deputy chief reveal, we already knew laguerta was covering for someone, but never expected to be the deputy chief, I'm definitively curious of how they're going to stop Debra investigation and about Louis, who the hell is this guy!?
And there's something else about Travis, does he realize that Gellar is dead and he is doing everything himself? I mean, there are situations
i feel like everyone complaining about the laziness of the writers may have selective amnesia. i've looked past it in previous seasons (going all the way back to season one), but there have always been times where i thought to myself "um, there would definitely be a camera here" or "there's no way he could stand do XXXXXXX without someone accidentally seeing him."
again, i would let it go in the past. and i still let it go. but please don't pretend like that problem didn't exist until later seasons.
I first realized Geller was imaginary when he and Travis were in the restaurant. There was no food /drink in front of Geller, and they way the waitress ignored him and started flirting with Travis struck me as odd.
From that point on, I was watching for any interaction between Geller and anyone other than Travis. The only time I had any doubt was when Dexter turned to look for Geller on the balcony at the church.
I didn't see the twist coming either. I do think that some of the characters are behaving "oddly" and Dexter has made soem serious errors. But... I have been intrigued with Travis & Gellar enough that the season has been very enjoyable. The reviewer is absolutely entitled to his opinions! Especially when it seem fair to say, he is a huge fan of the show. My opinion is that this review reads more like a blog entry with someone who woke up on the wrong side of the bed. It can be summarized by the following:
SIXTH SENSE IS GREAT
YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS
There's no way Travis is doing the DDK kills all on his lonesome. Killing his sister and setting up that tableau in broad daylight? Would have taken hours, there's no way he could have done it without help. What if that Louis the intern is helping him? The whole "interning with forensics to do research for a video game" excuse is sorta flimsy. I bet Louis got into Miami Metro to help out with the DDK killings from the inside.
Did the writers of Dexter change?
Is there anyone from Season 1, 2 or 3 still writing for Dexter? Or is it the same person?
The directing in Dexter, the whole pace is likable and exciting, in my opinion. They are returning to the more independent feeling that characterized the first seasons.
The writing, in my opinion, suffered a blow. I have to confess, I only knew about Gellar being imaginary because I've read stuff on the Internet after "Sins of Omission" and I regret it. Something tells me I would have a huge surprise if I hadn't read spoilers on the Internet. But for the people who figured it out early on, this season must have been a let-down.
You still have some jokes. Mazuka is a great character, he becomes more likable each season. He got some extra points in my admiration when he fired Ryan, the blond girl.
So, in my opinion, I think the dialogue is great. But the storyline is kinda messy.
And, as many people point out, DEXTER IS MAKING A LOT OF MISTAKES. W
This season is not all about this surprise. The season is about how Dexter deals with religion, and the Big Bad is still DDK. Whether or not this "surprises" anyone is irrelevant to the eventual conclusion of the show. It does take the show in a new direction compared to the earlier parts of the season, and it allows Dexter to explore further parallels between him and Travis.
I agree with the above posters that said this review isn't well written - it's written worse than you think the writers of Dexter are. You complained about one point that happened at the end of the episode, and ignored all the other happenings.
@jmaddi: By all means, only frequent a site you enjoy reading, but point of fact: 70% of poll respondents above saw the twist coming and over 30% labeled it "pathetic."
So this the obviousness of the supposed shocker was apparently to well over a majority of readers so far.
My typo below...
*to marry this report with [not to marry report this with]
Hey, I don't think this has been addressed yet: At what point did Travis kill Gellar?
The part that throws me off is the report of Holly, the would-be victim, saying that she heard two voices, that there was an old man and a younger one who let her go. I can't see any way to marry report this with the idea that Gellar was dead at that point, so it seems to me they must have been working together at least until then.
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