The Vampire Diaries Round Table: "The End of the Affair"

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We're in a love/hate relationship with Katherine. We definitely feel badly for Caroline. And we're not entirely sure why Klaus needs an army of Hybrids.

Join Matt Richenthal, Steve Marsi, Eric Hochberger and Dan Forcella for the latest edition of The Vampire Diaries Round Table, as, just like the episode itself, these four go back in time and revisit "The End of the Affair' below...


What was your favorite scene from the episode?
Matt: Stefan finding Elena hidden inside his former closet. I seriously didn't know what he would do or what would happen next.

Steve: For shock value, the revelation that Stefan not only massacred people, but enjoyed/recorded it all. For pure emotion, the look on Paul Wesley's face when Klaus permitted Stefan to remember their adventures. For humor, Elena waking up next to Damon, or Damon claiming he's more fun than his brother.

Eric: Caroline getting tortured. That stuff was hot. And way too much insight into my bedroom. And not at all creepy that I made that joke when it involved her father. Because it's fiction.

Dan: I loved everything from the '20s, but my favorite scene had to be when current Stefan remembered all the fun times he had with Klaus and Rebecca back in the day. TVD is so good at making us feel sympathetic for people who have done some pretty terrible things.

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Why is Klaus creating Hybrids?
Matt: In my review, I guessed it was a mission given to him by some higher authority... and promptly got shouted down by pretty much every reader. I'd appreciate if you leave my mother and sister out of this, people, but you did convince me. He's likely seeing protection for some reason. But, man, how evil must the person chasing him be if he needs an entire army of Hybrids?!?

Steve: I have no earthly idea, but I'm glad he apparently has a reason other than boredom. His desperation to do so didn't really make sense until we learned that even Klaus is vulnerable to... someone. Something. My guess is he needs these hybrid comrades to rise up against this force.

Eric: I like Steve's argument that's been for his defense. Isn't that what all creatures instinctively create hybrids for?

Dan: The need to rise up against a greater evil makes the most sense at this point. Like Matt said in his review, it's a bit tiresome that the Big Bad just continues to get Bigger and Badder every half season or so, but that seems to be the only logical situation here.

Who is the man trying to hunt Klaus down?
Matt: His step-father. His grandfather. His uncle twice removed. Someone related to Klaus dammit!

Steve: Elliot Ness. Probably confused Klaus for Capone.

Eric: Who cares? That man is from the 1920s and obviously dead. Like the witch. Oh... wait.

Dan: Oh, I got this one. Agent Nelson Van Alden: Federal Prohibition Agent. Wait, wrong show? Sorry.

Katherine is... under-used? Over-used? Used perfectly well?
Matt: Misused. It's almost easy to forget that she was THE villain on season one, THE number-one mystery. Then, she shockingly returned and her storyline never really went anywhere last year. I challenge someone to go back through season two and see if her actions and/or reasoning actually added up. I fear the show is only keeping her around because we all love Nina Dobrev's performance so much, but from a storytelling point of view, she's useless.

Steve: Maybe the writers are only starting to weave a complex, meaningful story here, but based on this week alone, Katherine phoning in tips to Damon out of nowhere felt... well, phoned in. Hopefully Kat won't become another Bonnie, called in periodically to plug whatever plot holes arise.

Eric: No way she can be over-used when I forgot she existed until his week. But, yes, she is quickly becoming the Bonnie this season: filling in plot holes when convenient. A kind of fun, sexy plot hole filler that I can't wait to see in Chicago next week, that is.

Dan: Too sporadically used. Sometimes I completely forget about her, and bringing her in for such a short amount of time here and there just seems to have no purpose other than moving our main characters around like chess pieces. Give her something to do, or get rid of her.

Caroline crying about her father: Understandable, or a total overreaction?
Matt: A total overreaction seems a bit harsh, but, hey, at least her father does love her in his warped, misguided, torturous way. The guy could have just killed her and gone back to looking for a new pair of horned-rimmed glasses. Silver lining, C, silver lining!

Steve: As if being strapped into a torture chamber by her own father wasn't traumatizing enough, she probably has Stage 4 melanoma after all that UV exposure. Rough day. I think we can forgive a girl for crying.

Eric: Yeah, if you're going to insult my Caroline you'll have to go through Dan. Then me. But come on, Round Table Question Creator Guy. Overreaction?!? Do I need Barney Stinson to sit down and explain daddy issues to you?

Dan: How dare you even think about criticizing anything Caroline does? We should all be so lucky to kiss the ground she walks on. It's not her party, but she can cry if she wants to.


I love rebecca and stef too! I'm starting to really root for forwood and delena and I'm anti ship. I don't miss Bonnie at all.


i love stephan and rebecca together :)


1. Fave scene. I totally a sucker for Forwood. The scene where he puts the ring on her finger was great. And the scene when he was comforting her in bed. Soo sweet. Love these two.
2. He needs an army to defend himself against whoever was after him and Rebecca in the episode. And on the point of a bigger and badder villain in each season. I think that there has to be otherwise they'll be no more drama. And without the drama the show won't be the same.
3.I'm guessing he's related to him somehow. Whoever it was was after Rebecca too. So Maybe an Uncle. No idea really.
4. I'm sure the writers have a plan for Katherine just like they do for everyone else. Have they let us down yet. I think she's being used just fine for now. Right now the focus is where it should be on Stefan/Klaus and Damon/Elena with Tyler and Caroline as an accent. But I'd like more focus on Jeremy and his ghost girlfriends.
5.Perfectly understandable. He dad was torturing her. And her relationship with her dad was suppose to be better than with her mom. And now that she has her mom and lost her dad. It's gotta be hard. And also, keep in mind everything as a vampire is heightened.


Favorite scene: Bromance - "I forgot what it was like to have a brother" "Take a picture of me and my brother" I'd have picked a Caroline scene if her storyline wasn't rushed/given enough screentime. Next favorite scenes would be Caroline scenes, then Rebecca/Klaus and Rebecca/Stefan. 2. Insufficient info.
3. See above
4. Misused
5. Understandable or even under-reaction.


I love all the Caroline love. Caroline and Tyler, and Stefan, are my favorite characters. And seriously, how can crying be an overreaction when you are shot up with vervain by your boyfriend's mom, then wake up to find out your dad is a vampire killer who proceeds to TORTURE you!? I think I would cry for HOURS.


Yes, Kool speaks the truth. Elijah/Rebekah's father killed all of Klaus' immediate family on the werewolf side. And also, I do not believe that Esther or the father are Originals. I think Elijah mentioned the Originals being the seven siblings (Or 6 + Klaus), which would mean that the children turned the parents after somehow becoming the first vampires.


i think , klaus needs his army for a war with his stepfather. The Origin of origins


1. Fav scene: Klaus at the bar with Damon. "How many freebies did I sign up for, and clearly, you want to die." 2. Hybrids : for the massive showdown that'll occur mid season between him and and minions of the new big bad... referring to that the police guy is a minion of another bigger bad, say the biggest bad. 3. Klaus hunter : This police guy is just a paycheck villain. The biggest bad I'm going to say is his mom. Which would be hot. In a non-incest way. 4. Katherine is a walking cliff-hanger generator. She pops up at the end of an episode and does something random. I was lost as to her function/role sine quarter way in season two. Nothing she does adds up. 5. Caroline - kinda overreaction. Stop milking my sympathy. I'm starting to not like her again. i thought she was going to continue with the butchness but Tyler's pushing her back into Bimbo land. This is the beginning of the degeneration.


I absolutely LOVED this episode!! Not a shocker, as I love them all...
1. My favorite scene: Elena waking up with Damon in her bed!! But that is such a tough question, as the whole episode was just so good!!
2. Why is Klaus trying to build an army. Who knows? There has to be a reason, we just are not privy to that information yet.
3. The man hunting down Klaus. I think that he too is a vampire. He is bound to pop up in modern day, so how would he do that if not a vampire? I know, the witch is very old too. But, something is telling me that this man has been searching for Klaus for a very long time!
4. Katherine: I love Katherine!! She is naughty and fun!
I don't think they under or over use her. I DO hope that they don't kill her off!!
5. Caroline: Hey, my girl Caro can cry ANYTIME that she needs to!! And, after what Daddy Dearest did to her, she had every reason to cry elephant tears!! By the way, Way to go Sheriff Forbes, and Tyler!!


I coudn't agree more with Nina. I will be forever grateful for Katherine turning Caroline! I mean I loved C. the minute she spoke but well after she turned she was irresistible^^ But I also wish that we'd see more of Katherine in a emotional way. It's right that she's done very much to get the plot along. But I'd like to see more of HER instead of her actions. Still when K. is involved it's gonna be awesome!

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