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Whatever happened to the stoic American? Why is it necessary to react at mere words as if they somehow can cause mortal wounds? Sadly, the resilient cowboy is dead and to the whole world we look like a bunch of whining wimps.
Fire him? Because of what? Yeah o.k. so, he said something really stupid.....,what's new? Everybody has said things that's later regretted.We've perhaps been able to salvage the situation/relationship,perhaps not.But,most of us have never had the media blow the issue up and force it down our throats.
I'm starting to think the cast of GA have serious problems,because it just seems like they're out to make sure IW gets kicked off.They've formed a clique,a herd of mindless beasts who'll trample anything or anyone who is not of the "accepted" standard.
The one thing I can say about IW is that he lets his mouth run ahead of him. Does that then make him evil or just thoughtless? T.R and K.H have also acted out negatively. One by being so malicious in a sickeningly spineless way and the other by being an overbearing interfering busybody.
That's the problem with trying to expose people to ridicule,pointing at them,accusing them,stripping them.The truth is you're right on the public stage
Washington is a bigot, it's as simple as that. When you make bigotted slur once, you can apologize and move on. When you do it twice, you should be FIRED, just like anyone would be fired in ANY workplace. He should be fired, pure and simple.
YES, he should be fired. Put it this way: If a white person used the "N" word and then later in a press conference said that he didn't use the "N" word, but used it YET AGAIN, then he would be fired and DESERVEDLY SO. Washington should be canned immediately and he should be ashamed for repeating the transgressions of the past. FIRE THE BIGOT!
YES he should be fired! Can't believe they haven't fired him yet!! Hurtful offensive and narrow minded comments like this about any other lifestyle/religion/race would NOT have been tolerated like this and Mr. Washington would have been collecting unemployment days ago!! Him apologizing doesn't mean a thing anymore AFTER he lied about saying what he did!! It only means that on top of being a complete narrow minded jerk, he's also extremely selfish! Denying what he said the first time was just to safe his ass, once he found out that that didn't help and only backfired, since 'firing rumors' appeared, then all of a sudden he decides to appologize and seek counseling...... do whatever the hell you want Mr. Washington, hopefully real soon you'll have plenty off EXTRA time to "search within your soul"! Seriously, who could ever look at him on that show without wanting to throw up and how could they ever do that to T. R., having to work with someone who has no respect for you or concideratio
NO, HE SHOULD NOT BE FIRED. I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE DID WAS TOTALLY UNPROFESSIONAL AND UNCESSARY BUT WE ARE HUMAN- AND NO HUMAN IS PERFECT!!
SECOND, THE SHOW WILL NOT BE SAME PERIOD. I HATE WHEN SHOW REPLACE PEOPLE- LIKE FRESH PRINCE WITH THE MOM OR FAMILY MATTERS WENT FROM THREE KIDS TO TWO KIDS. I HOPE GA ENDS LIKE THE COSBEY SHOW- ALL GREAT SEASONS WITH THE ORIGINAL CAST MEMBERS!!
AND THIRD- I DONT UNDERSTAND WHEN SOMEONE GETS CALLED OUT ON BEING GAY ITS SUCH A BIG DEAL. AS A KID, YOU FACE BEING CALLED SKINNY, FAT, UGLY, AND SO MANY OTHER NAMES. TEASING AND NAME CALLING IS LIFE. GET OVER IT- WHEN I WAS TEASED IN SCHOOL MY FELLOW CLASSMATE DIDNT KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL!!
It is interesting that people accuse Isaiah of being a hatemonger by being hatemongers themselves. According to people who know Isaiah he is a wonderful person, a good friend, a father who loves and spends time with his two little boys and baby girl, a good husband, and a talented actor. Even his co-workers have talked about how they all get along for the most part in spite of the amount of time they spend together and their arduous work schedule. Isaiah did not do anything to hurt TR. He didn't say he didn't like him or didn't respect him, or even that he had a problem with him being gay. There was nothing hateful in the remark. He used a poor choice of words in the heat of an argument with someone else. I agree with Shay that without knowing the context and the intent of the word, it is impossible to pass judgment on the actor. If abc were to fire Isaiah for poor judgment they would have to fire TR and Katie Heigl as well. It was poor judgment to chose that moment to announc
As someone who is a same sex relationship, I think that everyone should just get over it. It wouldn't have even been an issue if it weren't someone famous. If he'd been called that on the streets, he wouldn't have been on tv talking about it. I think it takes away from TR's character as well to go on television with the issue. Be a man, gay or not, and handle that with Washington. When you work with people so closely on a consistent basis, they become like family. I don't know about anyone else, but if I had issues with someone in my family, I wouldn't need the support of the media, Ellen, or any gay rights organizations to stand up for myself and address the issue. I find it ironic that no one is telling is in what context the word was used. Was it used as a synonym for gay, or was it used to show a general dislike or even to kind of tease him? We don't know, because all Knight said was that he was referred to as the f word. That's all I've heard anyways from the media is that it was
This guy is nothing but trouble, he had picked up a fight with another cast member and now this. He is subliminally propogating a missleding and false beleive that african americans are difficult to work with. This is not definatly not going to help with the lack of african american in sitcomes. He should be replaced by another african american.
Mr. Washington should be FIRED. As a Black Actor on the #1 T.V. show in America, his behavior/denial/lame attempt at comic relief during the After-Award Presentation at the Globes, He should know better! If a white or latino or asian actor acted out and used the "N" word in a similar situation, there would be HELL to PAY - -
ABC...DO the right thing and set and example...Excersize the "NO Discrimination policy that stands at Disney.
Well, Burke Backer, I agree with your comments. TR was not forced to come out. Yes, TR could have denied it, so this was a media thing. We've all said things in the heat of anger, and have had others say things about us in anger (well, at least that's happened to me) Maybe IW won't leave. I like his acting, so it doesn't matter to me if he leaves on his own or stays. It appears that IW saved his job by apologizing again and saying he'll seek help. Let's hope he does seek help. Yes, any of the primary characters would be difficult to replace and new characters would be needed, as is done on 'ER'.
I think this is about it for me, no more need to post on this subject.
FIRE THE ARROGANT HOMOPHOBE HATEMONGER!
Hi again, Carol. Thanks for clarifying. I really don't think that Isaiah would leave on his own. He seems to be really happy to be on the show and playing this part from all that I have heard him say either in interview or in articles. In this past month's Ebony he is quoted as saying he is asked about being on Greys and also being the proud father of three young children and he said, "I'm happy as Hell." If the cast is unable to forgive him and move on I suppose that could change pretty quickly, but I truly hope that they can come to an understanding because regardles of what was said and the circumstances, I really do not believe Isaiah has disdain for any of his castmates or meant to offend TR. Other than this one incident and the aftermath culminating in the inappropriate question and response at the Golden Globes, even very private Sandra Oh has mentioned how much they all enjoy working together. I do agree with you though. If Isaiah were to leave the show either voluntar
Hi Carol, I don't mean to be argumentative, but I don't understand how Isaiah saying anything on a closed set caused TR to announce that he was gay. Isaiah wasn't out telling the world by way of the Hollywood press than TR was gay. TR couldn't really even explain on Ellen why he decided that he had to come out of the closet after hearing that word associated with him. He had a choice. He could have ignored it or denied it. He chose to announce it. No one forced him. I'm sure that you know that Isaiah has apologized to TR not once but at least twice that we know of. Once privately according to all of the casts' interview on Oprah and again publicaly after the Golden Globes debacle. I don't think this has been forgotten in all of the hoopla, I just don't think it is valid to blame Isaiah for TR's choice. Someone could call me gay in a public place and if it weren't true, I would just say it isn't true. Isaiah referred to TR as gay in a supposedly isolated and protected setting
Burke Backer.....I was the one who posted the comment saying Burke could 'get a job at another hospital' or a comment close to that. And IW could be written off GA. Then, I said that another African-American actor could take IW's place....not AS BURKE--as he would be gone from Seattle Grace...but simply as another doctor. There are people here who don't read comments carefully and they twisted what I said around. I merely said another actor could come in and play a doctor. My idea was he could have a relationship with Yang...but it wouldn't be Preston Burke.
Would the actor NEED to be black? No, of course not. I just came up with some names. Nothing was intended by the names I came up with. The actor could be White, Asian, Hispanic, Black, it doesn't matter. My feeling was, at the time I wrote the post, that IF IW were dropped from GA, (which I doubt will happen--I think in time, IW will leave on his own) it wouldn't be a good idea to have another actor come back as Burke. Wouldn't
The thing I think that eveyone has overlooked in this situation is that IW's original comment caused TR Knight to come out at a time when TR wasn't ready to do so. TR said he is private and wanted to keep his private life to himself. He didn't feel it was necessary, before IW made that 'faggot' comment, for him to come out. Before IW made that comment, coming out was a non-issue for TR. He said his friends and family knew and that was good enough as far as he was concerned.
Well, then IW opened his mouth. So, TR was forced against his will to announce he is gay. How would any of US feel if we were forced by someone else to admit something private? So, this whole thing is not just a big deal because IW said something he shouldn't have...it's a big deal also because IW took out of TR's hands the right to make his decision about when (or if) to come out. Instead of apologizing to GLADD, IW should apologize to TR for doing something that forced a unwelcome major life decision.
Those of Black heritage would not have made nearly the huge deal out of it to begin with as TR. It is impossible to be Black and in the closet. It is not a secret. Nigger is an ugly word and a hurtful word, but certainly more commonly used than faggot. I have known people who have been called nigger by their bosses so don't tell me anyone would have been automatically fired for using the N word. I am so sick and tired of this argument from people who know absolutely nothing about it. I would hope if Isaiah had unintentionally heard someone call him the N word he would have confronted the person with why rather than announcing to the media that because he overheard TR use the N word he now has to admit he is an African American to the world. How foolish is this comment. I would also hope that if Isaiah had heard incorrectly and TR really didn't use that word and tried to correct the misrepresentation to the media, that Isaiah wouldn't have gone crying to the first Black talk sho
I feel IW should be fired. I cannot see how the cast can be comfortable and effective in such a work environment. There are surely many talented African-American actors who could do an equally fine job at portraying IW's character. Pehaps one that has tact and integrity. The world is full of all types of people and tolerance is necessary for success no matter what your job may be. As far as his comments at the Golden Globes - it was in very poor taste to bring up a volatile subject such as this and ruin what otherwise should have been a night of celebration for all involved. There are three simple common sense rules that people can use before opening their mouth and putting their foot in it - is the comment true? Is it kind? Is it necessary. If not, keep quiet. Too bad IW doesn't know that. Wonder how he would respond if the shoe was on the other foot and TR said "i never called him a "nigger" which is equally as insulting to those of black heritage. Grey's is a pleasure to
Is everyone ignoring the elephant in the room? Does no one else wonder what Isaiah Washington's response would have been had T.R. McKnight uttered the n***** word in reference to him?
BTW Isaiah Washington's character-bio says he is a thorasic surgeon, please note that his character is a thoracic surgeon.
No, I don't think he should be fired. This has been blown out of all proportion, and everybody and their brother feel that they have to chime in even though it should be just between the people who were actually there.
Political correctness is all well and good, but at a certain point it starts to become ridiculous. This debate has gone well past ridiculous and into the ludicrous.
Please, just let it rest.
I don't think he should be fired, but I would like to see Eric Lasalle play a gay surgen on the set and show Isaiah up...ahh drama.
I wonder how many times Isaiah was asked about the incident on the set since last October. Do you think hundreds? or even more. He had an argument with Patrick Dempsey. In the heat of the argument he used an inappropriate term. He apologized for the altercation with Patrick and also apologized to TR because the inapproprite term he used offended Knight. End of story. Right? Wrong. The media wouldn't let it go. The online reporters wanted blood. They wanted to see Isaiah punished. They brought it up over and over again. They tried their best to instigate his dismissal the last time.
I don't think Isaiah was in any way prepared for the backlash of that one ill chosen word. The level of hatred that was thrown at him I am sure was a complete shock. We have no knowledge that Isaiah has any kind of animosity towards gay people. He didn't say he hates gays. He has no history of gay bashing. He said he was not gay. If you said to someone, "Oh stop being so gay", would that
It is over let it go! Stick and stones people! He didnt hurt him. We don't know if he really said it we were not there.
Jason - Do you have your papers!! You sound ignorant.
What would have happened if someone on the set used the "n" to IW? They are all harmful names, one is not worse that the other....
I vote to fire Washington and belive that the network has a legal responsibility to protect T. R. Knight from a hostile workplace. Washington has created a hostile environment in the workplace and by doing so has violated policy. Washington is apparently a loose cannon and has no common sense or discretion. Whatever their differences are, any fool knows that the Golden Globe Awards is not the forum to settle it. I stand up for T.R. Knight. Washington should be canned!
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